bible-clutching red-state fatties

[joeallonby]

It's not secession. It's contraction. How many of the original thirteen went
for Bush? 

Let's go back to the original states and make the others apply for
readmission. 

Imagine if Kansas decided to declare Holy War and invade New Jersey.

>Hey, what's G12 do?
>Says here it destroys everything but the fillings in their teeth. The gold
helps pay for defense.
>Cool! Deploy G12!
>That was great! 
>What's G13 do?
>Says here it vaporizes Lawrence.
>Cool! Deploy G13.
>That was great! I got "Darkness on the Edge of Town" on MP3. Can we pump that
through the system, Sarge?
>OK. But the general just called to say that Oklahoma is getting uppity.
>Well, we got E47 for that.
>Let's nuke Oral Roberts U and listen to the Boss.

on 11/5/04 4:01 PM, Joel Katz at mittelwerk at hotmail.com wrote:

> fuck this bullshit about 'common ground.'  what does that mean, exactly?
> forsaking secularism and reaching out to evangelicals?  humoring them their
> stupidity?  periodically feeding them a homo or chicken-loving welfare
> nigger?  somberly agreeing that there are many sides to this evolution
> business?
> 
> listen:  kerry, especially toward the end, ran on a straight-up class
> platform.  he was directly addressing the concerns of the rank-and-file, the
> lower-middle and middle working classes.  he spoke directly to their
> economic future, to the practical concerns of their lives.  that they chose
> to ignore him, to, as thomas frank says, strike a blow against wall street
> by voting republican, means one simple thing:  that the majority of this
> country is acting directly against their own interests, which is to say,
> irrationally.  they are voting for 'national identity,' for america as a
> brand name.  they have their state tv station, their eternal holy war, their
> well-earned sense of cultural and intellectual inferiority--and they're just
> starting to sense their power.  this is homegrown american proto-fascism,
> shitheads, looking more and more like weimar everyday.  and the worse things
> get for these people, the more jobs shuttled out of the country, the wider
> the mesh on the social safety net, the more irrational they're going to get.
> 
> limited secession looks really good to me, and viable.  the northeast,
> pacific coast, and lake states ought to begin forming regional political
> alliances (as did the jim crow south), with strong democratic governors and
> mayors, state and city governments, and begin saying fuck you to the feds.
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> From: joeallonby <vze422fs at verizon.net>
>>> 
>>> Not all of us. I cannot tell you how many times I have heard the word
>>> "secession" spoken in all seriousness in the past three days. Bush and the
>>> bible-thumpers have managed to alienate an entire region of the country.
>>> That region contains many of the most industrious, best educated,
>>> innovative, and progressive people in the world. Where would America be
>>> without New England and the Mid-Atlantic States?
>>> 
>>> We are sick and tired of being insulted. We are about to take our ball and
>>> go home. Count the dead from Massachusetts and New York in Iraq and
>>> Afghanistan. Count the dead from Massachusetts and New York who were on
>>> those planes and in those buildings. The terrorists didn't attack Kansas.
>>> They attacked us.
>>> 
>>> Now, we are insulted on a daily basis by the very countrymen for whom we
>>> took those blows. They call us Eastern Intellectual Elite as if that were
>>> an epithet. They even make fun of our accents as if pronouncing words
>>> correctly were a sign of weakness. So, let them try fighting a war without
>>> our technological, financial, and military expertise. See how far they
>>> get.
>> 
>> Don't forget the other coast too.
>> 
>> The funny thing about your post is that it mirrors what I've been told are
>> the sentiments of the "heartland" and the South.  They feel denigrated by
>> the superior-minded intellectuals who scoff at their corny values.  There
>> is a deep divide at work (being well used by Rove & Co.), but don't forget
>> that a swing state is just that.  There is a middle, and there is a place
>> for common ground.  And don't forget: It was a VERY close election, so only
>> a little movement is necesary to regain control.  But it'll have to be by
>> attracting, not dividing.  Dividing is their tool.
>> 
>> Ghetta
>> 
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