AW: AW: Not Just About Iraq (Was: London)

[Keith McMullen]

Reading what I am saying as justifying terrorism completely misses the 
point. Terrorism is completely unjustifiable. Justifying American 
policy, and claiming it is not an essential ingredient in the 
perpetuation of this unjustifiable terrorism, is the height of the very 
irresponsibility and mindlessness that keeps the Bushies in office. 
Read GR.

On Jul 9, 2005, at 6:17 AM, Rcfchess at aol.com wrote:


I agree with Otto's interpretation below; to equate a bad solution 
(Bush etc.) with irresponsible murder of innocents on a mass scale 
(terrorism), as keithsz is apparently doing, is not only to compound 
the problem (2 wrongs don't make a right, especially when one is much 
more wrong) but to virtually justify criminal acts of the worst kind by 
simplistically reacting with non-thinking rhetoric, as the terrorists 
themselves do, and claiming justification for the worst possible acts. 
That's totally irresponsible, as well as relatively mindless.
 
In a message dated 07/08/2005 11:35:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
keithsz at sbcglobal.net writes:
> How can American foreign policy, combined with the U.S.
> military-industrial complex, not be part of the dynamic that results in
> terrorism?
>
> Bush and Blair are as responsible for the attacks as the terrorists.
>
> On Jul 8, 2005, at 8:21 PM, Otto wrote:
>
> It would be inappropriate too to lay the blame for those attacks on
> Bush or
> Blair. Primarily responsible are those who planned and did it.
>
> But I don't think that it has been Rich's intention to lay the blame on
> Bush, in my reading he was pointing to all those hollow words we hear
> from
> Bush since 9/11.
>
> Otto
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Ghetta Life [mailto:ghetta_outta at hotmail.com]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Juli 2005 15:31
> An: Rcfchess at aol.com; ottosell at yahoo.de; richard.romeo at gmail.com;
> pynchon-l at waste.org
> Betreff: Re: AW: Not Just About Iraq (Was: London)
>
>
> I agree that we are now in a quagmire.  And I agree that the Iraq war
> has
> made the world less safe by creating an unstable environment with the
> potential to become a breeding ground for exporting more terrorism. 
> But to
> *link* the London attack to the US's incompetance at waging war and the
> US's
>
> inability to protect its friends sure seems like laying blame to me. 
> And it
>
> also rings hollow as anexpression of sympathy for the victim.
>
> Ghetta
>
> > From: Rcfchess at aol.com
> >
> >> Hope all our friends on the  list from London are OK after today's
> >> unfortunate events in the ever  expanding global war on terror--a 
> war
> > which
> >> the US has no clue how to  win much less protect its own and friends
> >
> >
> > I'm not sure that Rich is "lay[ing] today's attack  at [Bush's] feet"
> > by
> > saying what he said; I think it could be interpreted to  mean that
> > we've
> > gotten ourselves into (as Otto says) a quagmire, not that we 
> > necessarily
> > are to blame for what the other side does. No? What do you all  
> think?
>
>
>
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