sadness of america/bad postmodernism

[John Doe]

Lacan started off with the wrong premises about how
conciousness arises, in my cheap opinion...no
neurobiologist takes his horseshit seriously either,
so you're in good company...

--- Sean Mannion <third_eye_unmoved at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> eh, because of me, probably.
> 
> I did say 'ludicrous aspects of...', and not the
> whole thing. I agree with 
> some bits and pieces (foucault on institutions, etc)
> but wholeheartedly 
> refer to others as horseshit.
> 
> When i say horseshit i'm generally thinking about
> Lyotard's clumsy 
> appropriation of Wittgensteinian Language-Games
> and/or Lacan on voyeurism 
> and the male gaze -- when asked to imagine a male
> voyeur looking at a woman 
> taking a shit, i'm far more likely to be wondering
> whether he pays by cash 
> or american express than registering the 'symbolic
> exchange' or 'unconscious 
> manifestation of the desire to see a woman with a
> prick'.
> 
> But hey, each to their own.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "Joel Katz" <mittelwerk at hotmail.com>
> >To: pynchon-l at waste.org
> >Subject: Re: sadness of america/bad postmodernism
> >Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:50:33 -0400
> >
> >how the fuck did a thread critiquing ID become yet
> another walleyed circle 
> >jerk "refuting" postmodernism?   you really are a
> bunch of faggots.  this 
> >list used to be cool.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>From: John Doe <tristero69 at yahoo.com>
> >>To: Mark Brawner <mark.brawner at gmail.com>,
> pynchon-l at waste.org
> >>Subject: Re: sadness of america/bad postmodernism
> >>Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 13:28:46 -0700 (PDT)
> >>
> >>I have the book that article was made into, and I
> >>recommend it to every Derrida-head out there: It's
> >>titled "Fashionable Nonsense", and does a
> blow-by-blow
> >>citation of certain Lit Crit Gurus who abused the
> >>terms and meanings of science in their
> writings...good
> >>stuff..if anything, I find Sokal to be TOO
> apologetic;
> >>like he's trying to correct the mistakes and gross
> >>misuse but also ameliorating the hurt feelings of
> >>Post-Modernists Honchos...it's a fun read...
> >>
> >>--- Mark Brawner <mark.brawner at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On 10/11/05, Sean Mannion
> >> > <third_eye_unmoved at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > And while we're all on the ludicrous aspects
> of
> >> > post-modernism and
> >> > > 'intelligent design', I was reminded of an
> article
> >> > on the Sokal Affair, to
> >> > > be found here:
> >> > >
> >> >
>
>>http://www.nyu.edu/gsas/dept/philo/faculty/boghossian/papers/bog_tls.html
> >> >
> >> > "It appeared in April 1996, in a special double
> >> > issue of the journal
> >> > devoted to rebutting the charge that cultural
> >> > studies critiques of
> >> > science tend to be riddled with incompetence."
> >> >
> >> > That is too good.  I'd forgotten that detail if
> I
> >> > ever knew it.
> >> >
> >> > Mark
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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