The alien hypothesis?
Joel Katz
mittelwerk at hotmail.com
Fri Oct 14 11:20:42 CDT 2005
sagan's theory was that life is sprouting up in the galaxy all the time,
even simulateneously -- but that advanced civilizations destroy themselves
before they can make contact. think about it: we've been radiating for
less than 150 years, and in that time we've already come within minutes of
extinction, and are probably even-odds for making it through the next 150.
set against a backdrop of cosmic time, the existence of other life is almost
a mathematical certainty -- whiile contact with it is highly improbable.
>From: Blake Stacey <blake.stacey at ens-lyon.fr>
>To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>Subject: Re: The alien hypothesis?
>Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:16:04 +0200
>
>Quoting jbor at bigpond.com:
>
>>Actually, "Science" does seem to spend an awful lot of time (and money)
>>investigating whether Mars could support, or has supported, organic life
>>and so forth. I'd imagine that the probability of the existence of "life"
>>elsewhere in the universe could be calculated scientiffically, i.e. via
>>some sort of equation where the expanse of the known universe is
>>moderated against the likelihood of environmental and chemical conditions
>>needed to generate and sustain "life" manifesting spontaneously. I
>>suspect that the odds would be quite good. Hypothetically-speaking, that
>>is.
>>
>
>Been done. We have the "Drake Equation", named not for any Celtic dragon
>but
>for astronomer Frank Drake, which takes the big question "Is there anybody
>out
>there?" and divides up our uncertainty. Each factor in the Drake Equation
>can
>be estimated (or guesstimated) based on a different set of scientific
>findings.
>The first number, R*, is the rate of star formation in the galaxy, which we
>can
>figure out by looking through telescopes. Other parameters, like f_L --
>the
>fraction of possibly life-bearing planets which in fact go on to develop
>life
>-- must be estimated using biochemistry, molecular biology and geology.
>While
>all of these variables have considerable "plus or minus" as regards their
>values, the most contentious is probably the last, the number Drake called
>L. The variable L represents the average lifetime a civilization stays
>"alive". Drake estimated L at 10 years; Michael Shermer puts it at 420.
>(Pass the bong,
>dude.)
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/420_(drug_culture)
>
>In Timothy Ferris's book **The Mind's Sky**, he quotes a poem which
>apparently
>floated through the SETI community:
>
>>Of all the sad tales
>>That SETI might tell
>>The saddest would be
>>A small value for L.
>
>Freeman Dyson pointed out, some years ago, that the Drake Equation should
>really
>be called the "Drake Inequality". According to Dyson, the equation needs
>one
>more factor, a parameter to represent how many "daughter" civilizations are
>colonized by each intelligent species. The Drake Equation as it was
>originally
>stated gives the **minimum** number of civilizations in the galaxy, but if
>civilizations achieve interstellar spaceflight, the actual number would be
>higher, possibly much higer. At present, the only way to estimate this
>number
>is to take an average over the values proposed in science-fiction novels.
>
>>As to "intelligent life" or UFOs, well, that'd be a separate equation. Or
>>a derivative of the first. But the concept of "intelligent life" is
>>problematic in that it's another one of those self-defining systems or
>>semantic constructs. And, coming at it from another perspective, it's a
>>little but egotistical, if not downright solipsistic, to assume for
>>oneself the mantle of supreme being in all of existence.
>>
>
>Don't wanna go there. Murky waters. Let me just say that the SETI people
>have
>worked very hard to imagine what sort of communication might be possible
>with
>species as different from humanity as scientists can imagine. (As
>different,
>that is, while still being consistent with known physical law. Beings from
>the
>Q Continuum need not apply.)
>
>Blake
>
>
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