The Wrath of the Intelligent Designer

[Ben Johnson]

I f "intelligent design" is the case, then what does the outcome say about
him/her/it?  A nearly infinite number of variables, no control group, 14
billion years in the making -- this is an unusual experimental protocol, to
say the least.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joel Katz" <mittelwerk at hotmail.com>
To: <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: The Wrath of the Intelligent Designer


> fine -- but how is this different from what i said -- that it's necessary
to
> posit an 'inconceivable' origin to being?  'meaningless' here, at the
onset
> of space-time, only means the natural limit to human consciousness.
before
> the bang, there is no reality, hence no idea.
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> but on this side of the bang, things desire each other.  how do you
suppose
> logic originated?  organically, out of its elements?  isn't it einstein
that
> said he didn't think the universe was an 'ad hoc' creation?  that's all i
> meant by 'design in being.'
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> and i only brought it up to illustrate the kind of scale i think any
> question of a 'supreme being' belongs on.  and how little it has to do
with
> the fright-mask projections of vanity, the mulleted gods of shitsville,
> okla., that get passed around these days as the genuine article.
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> which brings me back to my original point, that charity begins at home:
if
> you tolerate religion in your midst, you're a hypocrite.
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> The universe had no order at the
> >earliest definable instant. If there was a creator, it had nothing to
> >create.
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> >Note also that one cannot ask, much less answer, "What happened before
the
> >big bang?" Since no time earlier than the Planck time can be logically
> >defined, the whole notion of time before the big bang is meaningless.
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> >Furthermore, within the framework of Einstein's relativity, time is the
> >fourth dimension of spacetime. Defining this fourth dimension as ict,
where
> >t is what you read on a clock, i = sqrt(-1), and c is the speed of light,
> >the coordinates of time and space are interchangeable. In short, time is
> >inextricably intertwined with space and came into being "when" or "where"
> >(language is inadequate to mathematics here) spacetime came into being.
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