NP Willing Executioners?

[jbor at bigpond.com]

Otto, would you care to explain what you believe Goldhagen's argument 
to be, or what you think the wrong conclusion is?

As I understand it, Goldhagen's thesis is that "ordinary" Germans 
supported, and in many instances were active and willing accomplices 
in, the persecution and murder of Jews in Nazi Germany.

best

> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 10:18:14 +0200
> From: Otto <ottosell@[omitted]>
> To: pynchon-l@[omitted]
> Subject: Re: NP Willing Executioners?
>
>
> [...]
>
> Note that it's not been Goldhagen's original argument. It's just the
> wrong conclusion some people drew out of it.
>
> jbor@[omitted] wrote:
>
> > The argument below, logically extended, would likewise condemn all
> > Americans for the atrocities committed (against Native Americans and
> > African Americans; in South-East Asia, Iraq, wherever else) by their
> > elected American Reichs. Wouldn't it?
> >
> > Not agreeing with the argument, just questioning the logic.
> >
> > best
> >
> >
> >> From: "Joel Katz" <mittelwerk@[omitted]>
> >> To: pynchon-l@[omitted]
> >> Subject: Re: exhumed book from nazi slut
> >> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 12:24:19 -0400
> >>
> >>
> >> [...] the goldhagen book of a few years back ('hitler's willing
> >> executioners'), as well as common sense, paints a picture of general
> >> acquiescence and limited participation among the teutonic populace.
> >> also
> >> check out klaus thewelheit's two volume 'male fantasies,' on the
> >> widespread
> >> pop-cultural support for murderous anti-semitism and slavophobia.  
> so,
> >> exceptionalist anecdotes aside, when we speak of nazis of that time 
> we
> >> should indeed speak of germans as a whole.  and reserve our pity for
> >> those
> >> who deserve it.
> >>
> >>
> >> [...]
> >> >
> >> >Joel Katz wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>http://www.villagevoice.com/books/0533,tuhusdubr,66877,10.html
> >> >>
> >> >>as ben hecht said:  they should have walled in the whole country
> >> and let
> >> >>them feed on themselves.
> >> >
> >