The hacker we call Bob

pynchonoid pynchonoid at yahoo.com
Sat Aug 26 16:08:13 CDT 2006


I don't know...it's easy to imagine an aging rock star
or other 60s celebrity looking to inject some kind of
credibility, that's just the sort of purpose that
Pynchon serves for most folks who know his name these
days, judging from the contexts in which Pynchon's
name appears online day in day out, the idea that if
they had known Pynchon they'd be talking about him now
doesn't strike me as beyond the realm of the possible,
especially if it's just the "I smoked dope with TRP"
or "I slept with TRP" sort of thing from somebody who
isn't among TRP's current social set. Why should
Pynchon, after all, be immune to the "kiss-and-tell"
syndrome that afflicts celebrities in general, whether
they are the ones doing the kissing or telling or
both. The fact that we haven't seen this sort of thing
suggests, to me at least, that Pynchon may have spent
his time writing and reading instead of hanging out
with the kinds of celebrities whose memoirs are of
interest to the Boomer crowd. 


--- Carvill John <johncarvill at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Yes I know we should take Jules with a pinch of
> salt, if at all. I've been 
> back through the archives, and read 'Lineland' and
> all that. But that's a 
> whole other can o' worms.
> 
> Not to be argumentative, but what 'somebody' told
> you, Doug, seems way, way 
> off to me. I dunno what you intended by 'these 60s
> celebrities' but it 
> sounds super-disdainful to me, as if Dylan was the
> Paris Hilton of his day! 
> And the implication that these shallow 60s celebs,
> these cultural no-marks, 
> wouldn't know Pynchon and if they did they'd want to
> show off about it is 
> totally screwy. For one thing, if they were such
> no-marks then they wouldn't 
> know that Pynchon was someone to show off, surely?
> He's not exactly 
> mainstream after all. On the other hand, which of
> these celebs have 
> published their memoirs? Dylan has put out
> 'Chronicles Volume One', a kind 
> of 'memoir', but I don't think he covered the period
> in question, and it's 
> not likely that an acquaintance with Pynchon would
> be something significiant 
> enough for him to mention. Dylan never makes much of
> any authors, he mostly 
> goes on aout old folk or blues singers.
> 
> ANyway whether or not Dylan knew Pynchon (through
> Farina) is clearly not a 
> topic of much interest on the plist; certainly it
> can't compete with the 
> 'who drinkis most alcohol' thread. I'll have to seek
> out the Hadju book that 
> Pynchon did the interview for....
> 
> By the way, I'm pretty sure 60s celeb John Cale
> knows Pynchon, but I can't 
> think of any reason he'd be 'talking openly' about
> it.
> 
> >I'd caution against accepting JS's reports without
> >corroboration. He's demonstrated, conclusively,
> that
> >he has a major axe to grind re Pynchon.
> >
> >Somebody told me once that if any of these 60s
> >celebrities - Dylan, et al - had done stuff with
> >Pynchon they'd be talking openly about it by now in
> >their memoirs, the conclusion being that they
> didn't
> >know him so they don't have anything to say about
> him
> >now.
> >
> 
> 
> 


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