quoth Morris: "all those shitty essays"

[David Morris]

This is your third response to my setting the record straight, and
you're complaining about me not letting this go?

And you still haven't provided an example of someone calling the SL
intro "shitty."

On 10/18/06, pynchonoid <pynchonoid at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Well what have we here?  Plug in "shitty essay" at the
> pynchon-l search engine and you get:
>
> http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0506&msg=96404&keywords=shitty%20essay
>
> Seems to be "Morris" complaining about "all those
> shitty essays"
>
> Surprise, surprise!  Seems that "Morris" is the liar,
> , if this is what it looks like, and a smelly old
> hypocritical polecat to boot.
>
> Here was long-suffering hard-working Dave Monroe
> talking about trying to start a discussion of
> Pynchon's non-fiction - including his Intro to Slow
> Learner, NYTimes essays & etc. - and there's "Morris"
> calling them all "shitty" and, incidentally,
> demonstrating just how many years he's been spouting
> this sort of insightful Pynchon criticism, looking
> back as he does here to an earlier moment when he and
> a couple of others were trying to derail a discussion
> of Pynchon's essays because they were, "Morris" sez,
> "shitty".
>
>
> What I wrote awhile back still stands:
>
> http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0305&msg=79235&keywords=shitty%20essay
>
> [...]  PYNCHON-L remains the only venue I know
> of where "shitty" is used to describe something
> Pynchon has written -- accurate enough if applied to
> describe the parts of his work where he writes about
> shit, but inappropriate if "shitty" is supposed to
> mean anything like "excrement to be flushed down the
> toilet".
>
> [...]
>
> I prefer what David Kipen had to say about the
> Foreword in his SF Chronicle review the other day:
> "For the 'Nineteen Eighty-Four' intro, Pynchon returns
> to his signature nonfiction voice: postdoctoral yet
> cheerfully sophomoric, sad yet undespairing, as
> expressive in its alternation of long notes with short
> as an SOS. It's an instrument tuned and retuned in
> more than 40 years of occasional essays, reviews and
> liner notes -- forming, incidentally, one of the great
> uncollected anthologies in American letters."
> -
>
> You don't have to continue doing this sort of  stuff,
> Morris. You could just stop it. Focus on the topic at
> hand instead of worrying about me and what I'm
> writing, and I'll do the same, OK?  I'd really like to
> enjoy the next few weeks and months here reading and
> discussing Against the Day without you constantly
> accusing me of being a liar and dragging up old
> arguments and whatnot.  Yeah, sure, I mentioned
> "shitty essays" in passing, and you had a choice:  "Am
> I going to let that pass, or should I pounce on this
> opportunity to attack Doug, who hasn't even mentioned
> me in what he's written here?"  So you pounce,
> forgetting that, in fact, you're wrong and I'm right
> this time, again. Better impulse control would serve
> you well, amigo. Or, continue making yourself look
> like an idiot, it's your choice.
>
>
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-- 
David Morris