quoth Morris: "all those shitty essays"

bob mccart lebishar at gmail.com
Mon Oct 23 19:06:14 CDT 2006


On 10/23/06, bob mccart <lebishar at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> good god everyone shut the fuck up you are all worthless degenerates
> addicted to a computer game
>
> On 10/18/06, David Morris < fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > This is your third response to my setting the record straight, and
> > you're complaining about me not letting this go?
> >
> > And you still haven't provided an example of someone calling the SL
> > intro "shitty."
> >
> > On 10/18/06, pynchonoid < pynchonoid at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Well what have we here?  Plug in "shitty essay" at the
> > > pynchon-l search engine and you get:
> > >
> > >
> > http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0506&msg=96404&keywords=shitty%20essay
> > >
> > > Seems to be "Morris" complaining about "all those
> > > shitty essays"
> > >
> > > Surprise, surprise!  Seems that "Morris" is the liar,
> > > , if this is what it looks like, and a smelly old
> > > hypocritical polecat to boot.
> > >
> > > Here was long-suffering hard-working Dave Monroe
> > > talking about trying to start a discussion of
> > > Pynchon's non-fiction - including his Intro to Slow
> > > Learner, NYTimes essays & etc. - and there's "Morris"
> > > calling them all "shitty" and, incidentally,
> > > demonstrating just how many years he's been spouting
> > > this sort of insightful Pynchon criticism, looking
> > > back as he does here to an earlier moment when he and
> > > a couple of others were trying to derail a discussion
> > > of Pynchon's essays because they were, "Morris" sez,
> > > "shitty".
> > >
> > >
> > > What I wrote awhile back still stands:
> > >
> > >
> > http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0305&msg=79235&keywords=shitty%20essay
> > >
> > > [...]  PYNCHON-L remains the only venue I know
> > > of where "shitty" is used to describe something
> > > Pynchon has written -- accurate enough if applied to
> > > describe the parts of his work where he writes about
> > > shit, but inappropriate if "shitty" is supposed to
> > > mean anything like "excrement to be flushed down the
> > > toilet".
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > I prefer what David Kipen had to say about the
> > > Foreword in his SF Chronicle review the other day:
> > > "For the 'Nineteen Eighty-Four' intro, Pynchon returns
> > > to his signature nonfiction voice: postdoctoral yet
> > > cheerfully sophomoric, sad yet undespairing, as
> > > expressive in its alternation of long notes with short
> > > as an SOS. It's an instrument tuned and retuned in
> > > more than 40 years of occasional essays, reviews and
> > > liner notes -- forming, incidentally, one of the great
> > > uncollected anthologies in American letters."
> > > -
> > >
> > > You don't have to continue doing this sort of  stuff,
> > > Morris. You could just stop it. Focus on the topic at
> > > hand instead of worrying about me and what I'm
> > > writing, and I'll do the same, OK?  I'd really like to
> > > enjoy the next few weeks and months here reading and
> > > discussing Against the Day without you constantly
> > > accusing me of being a liar and dragging up old
> > > arguments and whatnot.  Yeah, sure, I mentioned
> > > "shitty essays" in passing, and you had a choice:  "Am
> > > I going to let that pass, or should I pounce on this
> > > opportunity to attack Doug, who hasn't even mentioned
> > > me in what he's written here?"  So you pounce,
> > > forgetting that, in fact, you're wrong and I'm right
> > > this time, again. Better impulse control would serve
> > > you well, amigo. Or, continue making yourself look
> > > like an idiot, it's your choice.
> > >
> > >
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> >
> >
> > --
> > David Morris
> >
>
>
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