Zizek re September 11

pynchonoid pynchonoid at yahoo.com
Wed Sep 20 11:16:26 CDT 2006


Zizek:  "For the large majority, daily life goes on
and war remains the business of state agencies. "

This is true for me and for everybody I know beyond a
passing acquaintance. 

Doesn't even feel "under siege" any more, either,
since, imo, it's impossible to know which of the
threats discussed out there might be real and which
(most, I suspect) are fear-mongering bullshit designed
to win votes. 

The sacrifice falls on a small fraction of the
population, seems to me, and they are bearing an
unfair burden.  Amazes me that they don't start
fighting back, although at the same time I know what
it's like not to have good choices when Uncle Sam
comes knocking.  





--- Joe Allonby <joeallonby at gmail.com> wrote:

> That's strange. I feel like I'm in a state of war. I
> worry daily about my
> relatives in the service. I skip over the pages of
> the papers  listing the
> casualties and bombings of the previous day. I watch
> what I say in pubs
> until I know that I'm in sympathetic company - even
> Republicans seem to
> think that Bush has blown it and Cheney, Rumsfeld
> etal are assclowns. It's a
> little easier living in a the most notoriously
> liberal neighborhood of a
> notoriously liberal capital city of the arguably the
> most liberal state (I
> know Vermonters who insist on their leftist
> primacy). The war is everywhere
> I look. There are signs on every overpass welcoming
> someone home. The signs
> are often side-by-side with signs saying "Bush
> lied." The war is om my
> radio. It's on my TV. It intrudes on my beloved
> baseball games when yet
> another third rate singer is trotted out in the
> seventh inning to sing a bad
> rendition of a maudlin Irving Berlin song. If I hear
> "God Bless America" one
> more time I think I'm going to hurl. I live in a
> state of war. I wonder why
> gasoline costs so much when we just took over a
> major oil producer. Ther
> business that I work for is adversely effected by
> the price of diesel. My
> friends worry about home heating oil. I go out on
> the harbor in a friend's
> boat and see Coast Guard Zodiacs with machine guns
> mounted on the bow out on
> routine patrols. We can't go fishing when the LNG
> tankers are coming
> through. We have staged disasters involving
> hypotheticall bombs going off in
> the mall. How is this not a state of war?
> 
> On 9/15/06, pynchonoid <pynchonoid at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > "[...] As President Bush said after September 11,
> > America is in a state of war. But the problem is
> that
> > the US is not in a state of war. For the large
> > majority, daily life goes on and war remains the
> > business of state agencies. The distinction
> between
> > the state of war and peace is blurred. We are
> entering
> > a time in which a state of peace itself can be at
> the
> > same time a state of emergency.[...]"
> >
> >
> >
>
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1869353,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=27
> > On 9/11, New Yorkers faced the fire in the minds
> of
> > men
> >
> > Hollywood's attempts to mark the 2001 attacks
> ignore
> > their political context and the return to history
> they
> > symbolise
> >
> > Slavoj Zizek
> > Monday September 11, 2006
> > The Guardian
> >
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