ATDTDA (14) p 403-405

Mark Kohut markekohut at yahoo.com
Sat Aug 4 20:05:16 CDT 2007


Regarding those horses....Pynchon raising the apocalype number of horses to the millionth power, so to speak?    See below
   
  Cylindrical confines?...like missles?....like the end of the stockyards?
  like the ocean but not..unbounded now.....smells of ozone.....
   
  Sounds like Hell to me..........dante reimagined by TRP?
   
  "ferally purring stridencies passing overhead"......screamings coming across the sky?
   
  The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse are the forces of man's destruction described in the Bible in chapter six of the Book of Revelation. The four horsemen are traditionally named after the powers they represent: Conquest, War, Famine, and Death. However, this is slightly at odds with the conventional interpretation of the Bible, which actually only directly names the fourth: "Death".
  Consequently, it is not possible to definitively state the intended interpretation of the horsemen; in fact, interpretations frequently reflect contemporary values and issues.
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   1 Horses and their riders   
   2 Original text   
   3 Interpretations     
      3.1 White Horse   
      3.2 Red Horse   
      3.3 Black Horse   
      3.4 Pale Horse   
      3.5 Alternative interpretations 
  
   4 Zechariah's Horses     
      4.1 Relationship to the Four Horsemen 
  
   5 See also   
   6 Notes 
   //     
  [edit] Horses and their riders  In summary, the horses and their riders as described in the Bible are as follows:
        Horse  Horse Represents  Rider  Power  Rider Represents    White  Victory; False peace  Carries a bow, wears a crown  Conquest  Antichrist    Red  Blood spilled on the battlefield  Carries a sword  War  War, Destruction    Black  Desolation  Carries scales  Famine, Persecution  Injustice to the poor and scarcity of food    Pale  Paleness of skin in death, decay  Followed by Hades  Kills by war, hunger, plagues, etc.  Death  It should be noted that while the rider of the white horse is often interpreted as the Antichrist, he is not named such in Revelation.
  The word used to describe the color of the 'pale' horse is the Greek word chloros or green. It is meant to convey the sickly green tinge of the deathly ill or recently dead. Since the literal translation 'green' does not carry these connotations in English the word is rendered 'pale' in most English translations.
  
  [edit] Original text

mikebailey at speakeasy.net wrote:  "It's a little ramshackle for a time machine, isn't it?"
(402) -- but they sign on for a supposed trip into the future

which is by turns puzzling (what kind of a future
features millions of humans walking - or, rather,
"ranging" - with millions of horses) and 
frightening/disgusting/disorienting
(screams and the smell of excrement and dead tissue,
and they can't see the walls anymore...)

and yet, they use their outrage as a bargaining chip
to get Dr Zoot's source, so they can find out more and
(apparently) do more time traveling.
They are hooked...but what's their motivation?

(like the 40-Year-Old Hippie comic -- "200 trips, and
they've all been bummers - but I ain't givin' up")

Just a word on the most common, mundane sort of time
travel - it's memory (or pointed toward the future, 
planning/imagining) - maybe for the Chums to start
thinking about all the things they've done, and 
making independent plans, is the kind of
time travel that begins to subvert their unthinking loyalty
to the Chums Command.






       
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