MAD3PAD 355-357

David Payne dpayne1912 at hotmail.com
Wed Aug 15 09:26:35 CDT 2007


Of course M&D are in America on the cusp of Revolution, too, which came with plenty of associated anarchic activities
 
And don't forget that the Mason-Dixon line (which eventually lay between warring states) was "drawn" inter-Venusian-transits...
 
 



> From: mikebailey at speakeasy.net> To: pynchon-l at waste.org> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 03:04:45 +0000> Subject: Re: MAD3PAD 355-357> > "Interprebendary" especially topical since there's a> big section in the book dealing with "intercalary"> days (the handoff from Julian to Gregorian calendar> and the lost days)> > which comes up again in AtD with the ginnunga gap, sort of...> > a period of time between 2 regimes, an interregnum> > maybe that's one way to achieve anarchy? > > -----Original Message-----> From: David Payne [mailto:dpayne1912 at hotmail.com]> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 01:54 PM> To: mikebailey at speakeasy.net, pynchon-l at waste.org> Subject: RE: MAD3PAD 355-357> > I think your reading works better than mine. I was having trouble with wrapping my head around an unexpectedly rivalrous/unseemly side to the Rev.--though it is funny how Wicks refers to Edgewise as "the Gambler" after losing to him in cards.> > Curious how two such different interpretations can stem (in part) from reading "inter" as "among or in the in the midst of" -- vs. "between"...> > > > > > From: mikebailey at speakeasy.net> > To: pynchon-l at waste.org> > Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 22:55:47 +0000> > Subject: Re: MAD3PAD 355-357> >> > My sense (a rare commodity) is that> > "interprebendary" is a circumlocution for> > "between jobs", further borne out by> > "between preferments" - so that his hint> > might be that he _doesn't_ have money to> > impress the young birds, and is in fact> > looking for work, which fits the larger> > picture of the difficulty which Wicks,> > with his checkered history and> > somewhat heretical views, might have finding> > a place within the Established church.> >> > having vowed not to use the phrase might> > be a rib-nudge, a snort or mild guffaw> > at the silliness of the word...> >> > -----Original Message-----> > From: David Payne [mailto:dpayne1912 at hotmail.com]> > Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 07:10 PM> > To: pynchon-l at waste.org> > Subject: RE: MAD3PAD 355-357> >> >> > Toby Levy defined interprebendary: “Not in the dictionary, prebendary is described as someone who receives a stipend from a cathedral or collegiate church in England. Perhaps Wicks used this word because he was receiving stipends from more than one church.”> >> >> > I agree, but I wonder, too, if Wicks is dropping hints ("between preferments" and "interprebendary") that he has money in order to impress the young ladies who just joined the coach. His descriptions of the pair certainly sound the praise of man smitten. Notice, too, that he apologetically brushes over his use of the terms ("I could only mumble and blurt, before the radiance of these young Piests")--and that he references breaking a promise to "a Certain Deity that [he] would refrain" from using the term "interprebendary."> >> > I suspect Wicks feels some rivalry with Mr. Edgewise, fueled by his gambling loss, but extended towards the attentions of the Redzingers. Read thusly, Wicks' contrasting portraits of a sinful Edgewise vs. a saintly pair of Redzingers grows somewhat comical as the chapter progresses. Note, for example, on the previous page, Wicks says that Edgewise, introduced “himself in a mucilaginous voice” – mucilaginous, meaning “slimey,” and Edgewise, therefore, a slimeball?> >> > Seems odd to accuse a Rev. of such motivations... Does this reading seem a reasonable interpretation? Anyone see this differently?> >> > See what you’re getting into…before you go there See it!> >> >> >> > > Recharge--play some free games. Win cool prizes too! Play It!> > > 
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