AtDDtA(15): The Practice of Boys Informing on other Boys

Glenn Scheper glenn_scheper at earthlink.net
Fri Aug 17 05:13:37 CDT 2007


Wow! Dave Monroe outdid himself. I had to set aside and study his post today.
Or am I manic tonight? Everything I read interests me.

1.

> "In the trenches of the First World War, English men came to love one another 
> decently, without shame or make-believe


I'm seeking a reply with quote that I may have heard here, that:
	 War is for men, as childbearing is for women (?)
No luck. But I found a gem or two:


  -- http://www.seeline-project.net/status_rape.htm
  SEELINE: The Status of Rape as a War Crime in International Law


  -- http://www.seeline-project.net/legalarmed.htm
  SEELINE - LEGISLATION: Women & Violence


War? Just the facts, ma'am. (Essential P-list facts):

Periods that are seen as peaceful are actually periods of preparation for a 
later war or when war is suppressed by a state of great power, such as the Pax 
Britannica.
  -- http://www.answers.com/war%26r=67
  war: Definition, Synonyms and Much More from Answers.com


War is a way of shattering to pieces, or pouring into the stratosphere, or 
sinking in the depths of the sea, materials which might otherwise be used to 
make the masses too comfortable, and hence, in the long run, too intelligent.
  -- http://sami.is.free.fr/Oeuvres/orwell_1984_4.html
  George Orwell - 1984 - page 4


The old mythologer would seem to have been right in uniting Ares and Aphrodite, 
for all warlike races are prone to the love either of men or of women.

Question: What happened at the temple of Artemis Orthia? thank you

Answer: Here boys became men through a coming-of-age ritual which involved their 
being flogged on the temple steps until their flesh was torn to bleeding 
ribbons.

Question: Did slaves get to go to court against their masters?

Answer: Not at all. And they could only testify in court with the permission of 
their master. But their testimony was not valid unless it was gotten by torture.
  -- http://www.fjkluth.com/sparta.html
  Sparta, The Conservative Ancient Greece



	I have to point out this site...

People over profit, woman's full worth over controlled reproductive function, 
and partnership/ diplomacy over war/dominance are outcomes calling for a heroic 
alliance.
  -- http://www.lysistrataproject.org/aboutus.htm
  About us. Lysistrata Project: People over profit, woman's full worth over controlled reproductive function, partnerhip over dominance.

'war doesn't grow on trees',
  -- http://www.lysistrataproject.org/withdrawing_our_consent.htm
  Withdrawing our consent

The Lysistrata Project is dedicated to bridging the spiritual, social activist 
and women's communities, and through our combined economic and creative power 
humanizing the global agenda.
  -- http://www.lysistrataproject.org/aboutus.htm
  About us. Lysistrata Project: People over profit, woman's full worth over controlled reproductive function, partnerhip over dominance.

	... as it seems to validate and makes me also report this statement:

Can't find it now. But it lumped (anti?feminism, pro?-life, and waging war).


Subvert the gender system.
Emasculate patriarchy.
Overturn capitalism.
  -- http://www.dvmen.org/dv-47.htm
  Marxism And The Roots Of Radical Feminism: A Series Of Essays by Carey Roberts


"Men's need to dominate women may be based in their own sense of marginality or 
emptiness; we do not know its root, and men are making no effort to discover it."
  -- http://www.pinn.net/~sunshine/book-sum/warwmn.html
  The War Against Women by Marilyn French


"sexuality is to feminism what work is to Marxism; that which is most one's own, 
yet most taken away."
  -- http://www.womenreligious.org/~education/FemTheol/Readings/Reading14/reading14.html
  Reading14


On the U. S. of Plutocracy:
  -- http://www.dailyscare.com/1782/reviewing-michael-parentis-democracy-for-the-few
  Reviewing Michael Parenti's Democracy For the Few | The Daily Scare


Third-rail topic: Slavery as good. I see parallels of North:South::US:Iraq.
DID THE CONFEDERACY DESERVE TO SURVIVE?
  -- http://ourworld.cs.com/mikegriffith1/chamberlain.htm
  SLAVERY AND SOUTHERN INDEPENDENCE:


Many interesting facts, and for coming Hegel topic...
The Gynaecocentric Theory of Life

While the voice of Nature speaking to the male in the form of an intense 
appetitive interest says to him fecundate! it gives to the female a different 
command, and says: discriminate!

We all know that the “sacred” institution of family, as it now exists, is based 
on the famulus or slave of Roman times.
  -- http://marxists.anu.edu.au/archive/montefiore/1920/xx/race.htm
  Race Motherhood, Is Women a Race? 1920

Got Wicker Man?
Instead of reproductive tourism, something new was devised...
  -- http://www.penelopes.org/article.php3?id_article=2496
  Les Pénélopes

	====

The Conflict of Self-Consciousness in Self-opposition
  -- http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/works/ph/phba.htm
  Lordship and Bondage

In order to explain how this works, Hegel uses a story that is in essence an 
abstracted, idealized history, about how two people meet. However, Hegel's idea 
of the development of self-consciousness from consciousness, and its sublation 
into a higher unity in absolute knowledge, is not the contoured brain of natural 
science and evolutionary biology, but a phenomenological construct with a 
history; one that must have passed through a struggle for freedom before 
realizing itself.
  -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master-slave_dialectic
  Master-slave dialectic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



So, what is this?
This running long description resonated with one of my epiphanous events.


I've posted it here. Let's see, I'll open this single line text file in
the WordsEx program as my search engine query list, and try to find it:
GET 001 http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&keywords=

That worked! I found one right away:

>From my 1998 web page, theword.htm:
I once sat for some hours alone, meditating, playing loud rock music.
The silly print of ships on my shirt became an imposing right arm and
fist. The music commanded obedience. I saw or sensed a figure of light,
as if in a conical robe, with no head, and right forearm raised as if to
swear...

Opposite him, and outside the patio window, was a mound of darkness,
darker than the night, and upon that mound, an even darker mark, of two
triangles meeting like an hourglass...

I went forth to kneel before the light figure, but was each time
distracted and turned to notice the dark figure, which was 'not', a
nothingness, a repository or an active agent of destruction.
  -- http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0306&msg=81553&keywords=hourglass
  waste mailing lists / pynchon-l by date

And another elaboration:

That web text seemed to totally map onto this tantric
experience, got by staring at my erection for an hour:
http://waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0306&msg=81553
http://waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0409&msg=93139
  -- http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0510&msg=98751&keywords=bicameral
  waste mailing lists / pynchon-l by date


And finally, sufficient details to map it on Hegel's oppositorium:


I saw the abyss.

It was the time that I eisegesize as the opening
of Seal 5, when I had a lesbian girlfriend and
smoked dope, and in the house a roommate's poster
of an all black radiant sun troubled me greatly.

I was in easy pose, meditating on an erection.

About an hour went by, and the loud rock music
became imperious. A print of ships on a stupid
shirt formed itself into an immense right arm
and fist. Positioned like it was my right arm,
but it was alien. It must be the Lord's angel.

Outside the patio door, darkness was heaped up,
darker than the night, as if space penetrated
the earth from the other side, then protruded,
a naught that not merely is not, but is active
in its destructive ability. Blacker than that,
there was a dark mark on it, of two triangles
meeting one another at one point.

In balance, on the other side, in the room,
there was a headless angel of light with his
right arm raised as if to swear, and I went
and knelt to worship him, but was repeatedly
stopped, and made to turn and see the naught.

It's easy to see how a standing woman's vagina
could be the bottomless pit. But since Internet,
I've learned of the possibility that this event
was just a bicameral mind, appearing to itself.
  -- http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0409&msg=93139&keywords=bicameral
  waste mailing lists / pynchon-l by date


Kojève argued that Hegel's intentions were to illustrate that overcoming the 
fear of death was the only way to achieve true freedom. This was not actually 
stated by Hegel (in truth at points in this work he makes a direct argument 
against the use of force as the manner in which history develops). A recent work 
that uses this argument is Francis Fukuyama's The End of History and the Last 
Man. Fukuyama admits in the work that his understanding of Hegel is mostly 
Kojèvian, in particular his conception of the end of history as an ultimate 
stage of history, while it is, according to Georg Lukacs' interpretation, not a 
transcendent end but an aim immanent to the never-ending process.
  -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master-slave_dialectic
  Master-slave dialectic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


This compares to the third part of my vision: Me sitting on the couch,
seeing the other two entities that I described in their opposition.

> Master morality fits actions into a scale of good or bad whereas
> slave morality fits actions into a scale of good or evil.

This might compare to the Marxist? distinction of just and unjust wars.

Certainly it fits my home life, which I often label as fitting Lacan's
Master-Slave discourse type: While my wife calumnizes me and disrespects
and subverts every my communication with conversational games (leaving me
with "no voice"), she merely labels me as "bad", but I label her attitude
as "evil", an outworking of pride and envy exactly as I find described in
Chaucer's Parson's tale.

There is no antidote to her poisoned position, only to ignore her and to
cease trying to make myself lovable, therein is finally release, liberty.
For the "master" has no need of the "slave", and never will. Babylon.

BTW, as to the end of history, anybody notice the red crescent moon last
night? I think it will be around until some kind of eclipse on the 28th.
~ "And the sun will be darkened, and the moon become as blood before the
great and dreadful day of the Lord".

So, I realized ATD has lots of pages, and I remember Dante's DC said that
the facts themselves would soon unlock this naides, and it had to do with
a number, Five Hundred Ten and Five. So I looked at ATD page 515, and, yes,
page 515 is very special (aren't they all, but) when the SS Stupendica is
first said to be changable into a warship. So, I figure Dante reads Pynchon.

I have lots more to say, like how unrequited love, or more concretely,
coming not against coming, unpaired ejaculation, constitutes death in
the Book of Revelation... but half Dave's post and that unfound quote
have kept me at it from 6 pm to 3 am. Gu'nite!

Yours truly,
Glenn Scheper
http://home.earthlink.net/~glenn_scheper/
glenn_scheper + at + earthlink.net
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