Atdtda23: [46.1i] A passionate heart, 653
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grladams at teleport.com
Sun Dec 16 12:14:27 CST 2007
this is one of my favorite rap topics on this list. the one we're on right
now.
instructive nature of the They.
(instructive things : leading speaking warning?)
Does anyone else have reverberations of back in ATD where our chums are
getting these clues to do the missions from the .. never fully described
almost industrialist secret body?
Well what that is is instruction. And what gives you ideas for instruction
is
something that is inherited. Like how to bake bread...
I'd like to think that there's hope. So, in this book, one feels again and
again the presence of the past or being or elder or whatever trying to TELL
US SOMETHING! or it being Thwarted or redirecting our gaze to the hail mary
false pass. With so many breadcrumbs we're trying to pick through, when all
it wants to do is scream hugely across the banner on a mountaintop. And we
like Le Guin says, cannot hear it.
ATD gives me an overall feeling that there is a struggle in finding out
what we should be doing.. which instructions to take.. This novel is about
seeking grace. There, I said it.
...But with any luck, with the wavy nature of time being discovered, Beads
touching in a necklace of time as a woman at a cocktail party suggested to
me...
Jill
Original Message:
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From: Dave Monroe against.the.dave at gmail.com
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 05:15:49 -0600
To: monte.davis at verizon.net, pynchon-l at waste.org
Subject: Re: Atdtda23: [46.1i] A passionate heart, 653
On 12/14/07, Monte Davis <monte.davis at verizon.net> wrote:
> "Those who claim to have heard it speak as it made its escape are now
safely
> away in the upstate security of Matteawan... languages long dead to the
> world... that awful witness" (145) " is pure Lovecraft.
THE SUNDAY HANGOVER
007
WARREN ELLIS
The other week I made reference to "the Philip K Dick Condition."
Philip Dick, to my mind, was the great visionary writer of the 20th
Century. Alan Moore thinks it's Lovecraft, but I think Dick contains
Lovecraft, and Kafka, and in his own visions recontextualises and adds
to them both. He was a visionary in both senses: he saw the future,
and suffered his own instructive hallucinations....
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