ATDTDA (5.1) - The Etienne-Louis Malus

bekah bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net
Thu Mar 22 01:16:49 CDT 2007


At 7:51 PM -0400 3/21/07, kelber at mindspring.com wrote:
>I agree that the history of NYC has been a history of ruination, 
>with Robert Moses and Mayor Koch being particularly destructive, but 
>the WTC towers sharply altered a famous view.  If they suddenly 
>built some glass office towers next door to the Pyramids, it would 
>be a final insult added to the cheesy tourism that has defaced the 
>site.  Eventually, we'd incorporate it into our view/collective 
>memory of the site, but it wouldn't make it less egregious.


I have no  idea  what's going on in the firey passages.  I've read 
the sections several times and they're seriously ambiguous with 
different ways of reading different phrases - the reader has to be 
really careful perusing the material.  John is so right about the 
layers of meaning - bifurcated meanings?  The text as a doubling of 
itself (Hunter/Lew lost,  and more)?

But I want to thank you Laura for that incredible post you sent 
earlier.  I was convinced for awhile.   And then I went back to the 
book and ...  back and forth,  back and forth,  what with the 
speeding watches and references to the future and so on .

But at some point this evening I happened on info about a Hoboken 
fire on the pier in 1900.

<http://www.maggieblanck.com/JPetermann/Fire.html> Excerpts from the 
New York Times,  July 1, 1900.

<http://www.maggieblanck.com/Hoboken/PhotosFire.html>  Photos of the fire.

<http://www.pier3.org/pier3/whathappened3.html>  also pretty good

Fleetwood was at the docks when it all happened.

I think that the basics  was in the Hoboken fire but Pynchon wrote it 
up like 9/11.  And how different could they have been from the 
viewpoint of personal trauma and emotional impact?

Bekah

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