ATDTDA (5.1) - The Etienne-Louis Malus

Bryan Snyder wilsonistrey at gmail.com
Mon Mar 26 18:04:58 CDT 2007


would the ATDTDA be something i should understand as "this email may contain spoilers"

what does ATDTDA mean?

I gotta stop reading these things, I'm almost at 800 and think I can hold off until I'm done... but some of the posts are so insightful and good... 

dilemma.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mark Kohut 
  To: Carvill John 
  Cc: pynchon -l 
  Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 6:54 PM
  Subject: RE: ATDTDA (5.1) - The Etienne-Louis Malus


  What we--as Chums have---is some grace (remember it means in Lew's epiphany, that we
  realize things are as they are) after WW1 and before GR begins......??????

  Carvill John <johncarvill at hotmail.com> wrote:
    Tore:
    <Slothrop's hymn (or of touching between your own cold legs): It ends the 
    novel on a note of hope and provides the reader a little bit of comfort, but 
    the comfort is a slender and even a cold one, and it won't stop those 
    rockets from falling. >>

    I know we're getting way ahead here, but that fairy tale ending obviously 
    has to be taken into account in any consideration of how we're to view the 
    Chums. I don't know that we can say the flight toward grace ending is an 
    unambivalently or unambiguously hopeful note. In some ways it echoes the end 
    of Vineland, both literally - in the ascent of an airborne vehicle - and in 
    the difficulty we have in deciding whether it is or isn't intended to be a 
    'happy ending'.

    Ok, maybe I better go read that 'Pynchon's endings' thread...

    Cheers
    JC

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