So where in the world is Nina Hartley ...?

[Daniel Harper]

Forgot to forward it to the list.

On 5/18/07, Daniel Harper <daniel.e.harper at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 5/18/07, Bryan Snyder <wilsonistrey at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >  Last time Ruggles and I had lunch he talked to me about this and said
> > he was very disappointed with her performance in Anal Ass Play Volume 45,
> > because it didn't provide the catharsis that her role in Sh*t on me Vol. 5
> > (Sh*tting from High-rises) did.  He seemed to lament her departure from
> > Glory Hole films, which he thought were a perfect metaphor for the current
> > market strategies taking place by global conglomerates in Estonia and he
> > said he thought that her portrayal of "Girl 5" in "Helicopter F*cking" was
> > the last time she really put forth true emotion in her work.
> >
> >
> >
> > I mean – maybe he just doesn't respect her… respecting her seems like
> > something one has to force themselves to do.
> >
>
>
> Are you arguing against Taormino in particular or porn actors in general?
> Other than the "Real Sex" bit I haven't seen any of her work, but being a
> pornographic model is a perfectly fine lifestyle choice and career, and it's
> more difficult to make a good porno flick than you'd think. (_Bad_ porn is
> easy, and is all over the net.) If she was a mainstream actress who made a
> career out of ten-line roles in sitcoms and cheesy dramas, would you be as
> condescending towards her work?
>
> Maybe he wants her to get a real job… and to stop trying to use the fame
> > he tries so hard to avoid to push her own classless "art"… If I had gone
> > through the serious trouble of staying as reclusive as he has (there's
> > clearly a lot of reasons for it) and saw my whore niece mentioning my name
> > in the NY Post, I really don't know what I'd do, but it would be quite a
> > harsh response.  Much harsher than his, viz. simply ignoring her, which is
> > hysterical and deserved.
> >
>
> My point is this: P seems comfortable with the profane and I doubt he has
> the same revulsion towards pornography that you seem to. And given his bits
> on the Simpsons and that bizarre Jon Stewart piece, sending a note to her
> publicist (ie "Thomas Pynchon endorses porn flick!") seems exactly the kind
> of screwball behavior we can expect from him vis a vis the media.
>
> I look at her like those people at CNN who actually had to discuss not
> > showing video of the man, per his request (like that had to be discussed)
> > and then they say "if you look closely Pynchon is among the people you will
> > see."  That is flat out wrong and so is this… "person."
> >
>
> I really don't get the lack of respect here. P desires his privacy, sure,
> but by fetishizing himself so he only guarantees that people will be more
> and more curious about him. Plenty of authors are known to be reclusive and
> decline to be interviewed without going to the extremes P does. That's his
> choice, of course, but it does seem a bit counterintuitive to me.
>
>
> *From:* owner-pynchon-l at waste.org [mailto: owner-pynchon-l at waste.org] *On
> > Behalf Of *Daniel Harper
> > *Sent:* Friday, May 18, 2007 10:27 AM
> > *To:* robinlandseadel at comcast.net; pynchon-l at waste.org
> > *Subject:* Re: So where in the world is Nina Hartley ...?
> >
> >
> >
> > As long as we're talkin' porn (at last a subject on which I have some
> > expertise!), there's this:
> >
> > http://www.nypost.com/seven/09282006/gossip/pagesix/pagesix.htm
> >
> > Few know that Pynchon is the brother of Taormino's mom. For years,
> > Taormino has tried to get him involved in - or even just acknowledge - her
> > carnally charged career. But the interview-averse author, who lives in
> > seclusion on Long Island and refuses to be photographed, has refused.
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > Not surprisingly, Pynchon's literary agent didn't return our call. And
> > Taormino, who wistfully remembers when her uncle attended her college
> > graduation, admitted: "I'm not holding my breath."
> >
> >
> > It seems out of character for a guy so secular he named a character
> > Profane to be this disinterested in his niece's career. Taormino has
> > appeared on "Real Sex" as a sex educator, and comes across as intelligent,
> > witty, sexy, and very much in the same vein as our man P. Is P's reticence
> > on this issue a dislike of the material she produces (ie "sullying the
> > family name")? I think not, but it seems even a recluse like Pynchon would
> > be willing to send a public "attagirl" to Taormino if she's feeling this
> > neglected by her uncle.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > On 5/18/07, *robinlandseadel at comcast.net* < robinlandseadel at comcast.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >           Well, she still has her hand in the game [so to speak],
> >           out there in Sodom & Gomorrah by the bay. . . .
> >           Last I [ahem] looked, she still lives in or near Berkeley.
> >           Gawd, I miss Berkeley. . . .
> >            -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >           From: "Tim Strzechowski" <dedalus204 at comcast.net>
> >           > ... as long as we're talkin' film and all.  Just curious.
> >
> >
> > !spoO. Here's the intended attachments from the previous reply:
> >
> > http://www.247gay.com/article.cfm?section=66&id=14483
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/26cunj
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/245whx
> >
> >
> >
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