AtD 16, p. 451+...bit of overlap..ending soon

[grladams at teleport.com]

How exciting and thought provoking! I watched a DVD called Elegant Universe
(you probably know this one) and wished I could get another instructional
DVD to expand on the topic of Gravity. In the DVD, Gravity is quite the
"other" and seems to have escaped our ability to find an, uh, common
denominator I suppose, to include it in with the other forces in a
mathematical way until string theory and conversely perhaps during the
flexy nature of physics of 1900. I could be completely wrong. But it seemed
that this lagging behind stimulated efforts to corral it more elegantly
with other forces, causing much collegiate study over the last century and
perhaps longer. So, anyway, if you know of any more "gravity for dummies"
I'd be keen to absorb it in with your point that all religions (perhaps all
commerce, medicine, everything too) struggle to overcome time. I surely
hope there will be postings that do elucidate the "should/should not" on
"Make gravity impervious to time". My kneejerk reaction is that "should
not." But then, oh how difficult everything would be. It would be like
going back to cave man times, eh?

Jill

Original Message:
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From: Mark Kohut markekohut at yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 12:53:54 -0700 (PDT)
To: pynchon-l at waste.org
Subject: AtD 16, p. 451+...bit of overlap..ending soon


Time and a time machine...p. 453 "Build a time machine".......once again,
overcoming Time.....the promise of (most) religions..........
   
  "We thus enter the whirlwind"....
   
  Cf...JOB 38:1-40:24
   
  Whirlwhind: God, who speaks to Job from a whirlwind. "God appears
speaking in a voice from a whirlwind, from a tornado and it's, I gave you
some little flavor of it before, it's an amazing diatribe God embarks on.
Job has stirred up a hornet's nest. God is in a sarcastic mood and keeps
asking him "Well, where were you when I laid this whole thing out? Do you
know how to stop the waves from breaking? Do you know where they should go?
Do you know where I keep the hail and the snow? Do you hunt game for the
lioness?" Bill McKibben 
   
  Notice it is the same tornado..the same whirlwind always
returning!......OBA is so 'f'in CLEVER, pushing an idea to its furthest
joke......
   
  p. 452 Eternal Return. The concept, made most famous by Nietzsche, refers
to the endless
  repeatedness of events in a cyclical eternal universe. But we know from
CofL49 (i think) that
  Pynchon has read Mircea Eliade, another thinker into the conjunction of
magic, science and religion who had a different conception: The religious
scholar Mircea Eliade has applied the term "eternal return" to what he sees
as a universal religious belief in the ability to return to the mythical
age through myth and ritual (see Eternal Return (Eliade)). Eliade's theory
of "eternal return" describes a distinctly nonspontaneous process that
depends on human behavior; thus, it should be distinguished from the
philosophical theory of eternal return (the subject of this article), which
describes a mathematically inevitable process. 
  See wikipedia on Eternal Return for both.
   
  Notice Roswell Bounce....[Roswell, famous UFO allusion and
bounce----Bounce, more joke to me] .....Candlebrow back again.......
   
  Comment on:  "Make gravity impervious to time?   Gravity, that fact and
metaphor TRP has made famous.......
   
  Gravity and time CANNOT/ SHOULD NOT be overcome in TRP's positive vision
of Life? Yes?
   
  the chapter ends with a famous mathematician 'with an astronomical
distance set equal to an imaginary unit of time".   P. 458
   
  Jake with me. He also said 'mystic'.
   
  "Notice the way the speed of light kept coming into
it?"........"translate this into hardware"
  Thematic still.........and 
   
  Q: is this where a time machine was really first made????.....
   
  "Pregnant
   
   

       
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