AtDTDA: [38] p. 1085 They fly towards grace.

[Michael Bailey]

 Mark Kohut wrote:
> Thesis: Yes, the Chums are Us; We are the Chums. Like the Stupendica, which was a luxury cruise ship AND a destroyer,

a floor wax AND a dessert topping...

>I think TRP may be indicting almost ALL of us....— bour·geois·ifi·ca·tion  >\ˌbu̇(r)zh-ˌwä-zə-fə-ˈkā-shən\ noun.....the wide (by definition) middle class which gives >assent to the military industrial complex.......which is so pervasive, we can't see it.....it is all >around us,as above, so below, so is invisible as TRP writes twice here.
>

is the bourgeoisie really so terrible?  in the dialectic of History,
it was the 1st meritocracy not completely dependent on violence
- trade fairs hardening into banking centers, workshops evolving into
master-apprentice situations leading to guilds and seeding the notion
of unionism...

if recent wars have been primarily a celebration of markets,
could it not be that the commercial system is swallowing the
militaristic-force-based-might-makes-right-divine-right-of-kings
and peristalsis will transform all this militarism
ie, once the Bilderbergers have completely bought the military-industrial
complex, it's hard to imagine their beancounters will allow its components
to lower the market value of its holdings by actually dropping those bombs...

or that, once we are all enslaved to the New World Order, that its
beancounters will countenance the loss of productivity implied in
sending working-age healthy dudes and chicks out to commit and receive mayhem
-- sure, some atavistic local satraps might still want to indulge their
blood lust, but it won't look good on their resumes


>
>  Sidebar: The great Max Weber, whom we know TRP learned from, had more insights and words than just the "rationalization of charisma" and the singling/narowing of human options in modernity. He wrote about the professionalism and efficiency of modern institutions......I hardly know his ideas---I know there are experts on the p-list---


if so, I hope they speak up.  The rationalization and narrowing certainly do
seem key to GR and M&D at least.  It'd be a nice development if AtD utilized
more ideas from Weber, wouldn't it, Mark?

Seems like the professionalism Frank developed in mining school and
his industrial jobs made him a standout among the revolutionaries, who were
mostly wild-eyed impractical chest thumpers (for instance, the
ridiculous plan to steal
silver on horseback)

The efficiency of the private eyes, too, contrasted with the
charismatic leadership involved in Webb's brand of anarchism - he was
incited to it and kept at it by Gatlin basically preaching at him -
buttresses this thesis.  Not so much that the private Dicks themselves
are terribly professional, but that their motivations are mundane
and they are not really emotionally vested in their jobs the way
Webb is in dynamiting.

Again, the peregrinations of Fleetwood represent the charismatic
style of leadership subsumed in a modern efficient organization -
Nansen and Johannsen, and Vormance, expeditions formed around
a doughty adventurer
but Vormance was paid for by Vibe in pursuit of industrial intelligence -
as opposed to earlier treks underwritten by popular subscription.

So Weber's thoughts, if I understand your precis, do light up AtD
- more lights, please, sir!

>  The Girls leave the ship AT RIGHT ANGLES----

but if the Chums are already dealing with all 3 of the commonly-known
dimensions, then the right angle the Chumettes find is the legendary
4th non-space arrow that we've all seen in a 2-d diagram pointing
off in addition to the other 3...

>  Or, as used to be said by the Garcons of 1971: if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.
>

Timothy Leary told Eldridge Cleaver that people who say that are themselves
part of the problem...Eldridge Cleaver presaged Dick Cheney and told Leary
to fuck himself...

>  Much less 'optimistic' ending we are arguing, than many, most seem to be seeing.

eenhyeh, what is that St Paul quotation - we are besieged but
not defeated, trampled but not crushed, something like that...
what if the Chums are the 1st derivative of the slope of the bell curve
and represent a distillation of what is lovable --
they will endure (as Faulkner opined)
even if their retirement plan is to laugh...