Enzian and Tchitcherine

[Paul Mackin]

Mark Kohut wrote:
>> From: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
>> Not just an offhand joke. 
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>> If one of the deeper themes of GR is Why is there the self-hatred of humanity that leads to the self-destruction of War?; why is there War against our "brothers"?; Is there a Death Wish in History, in our collective psyches?..............
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Freud proposed an unconscious "death instinct" or "death drive" shortly 
after WW I in "Beyond the Pleasure Principle." Many people started 
calling it a "death wish" however.



>> Then, maybe that's part of the meaning of Enzian and Tchitcherine?
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>> --- On Thu, 7/17/08, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> Subject: Re: Enzian and Tchitcherine
>> To: "rich" <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
>> Cc: "pynchon -l" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 4:37 PM
>> Half-self hatred?
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>> --- On Thu, 7/17/08, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> From: rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Enzian and Tchitcherine
>>> To: "pynchon -l" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>>> Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 2:30 PM
>>> almost done with another re-read of GR.  Can anyone
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>>> describe the reason Tchitcherine is obsessed with
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>>> his
>>> half-brother Enzian? don't really understand his
>>> personal motivation
>>> here--is it just a Cain and Abel deal?
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>>> rich
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