AtD (37) p. 1055, Kafkaesque dream, guilt, paranoia, Where is LAPD?

[Mark Kohut]

I vote for the consensus..........

In fact, in a kind of homage to timelessness, I vote for maybe reading more than one at a time???

many on the the p-list is already doing that, it seems. 

a--and we always have more than one thread going anyway.........

We can make some wonderfully contrapuntal, full orchestral sounds..........
Talk about Stravinsky!?


--- On Mon, 7/28/08, robinlandseadel at comcast.net <robinlandseadel at comcast.net> wrote:

> From: robinlandseadel at comcast.net <robinlandseadel at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: AtD (37) p. 1055, Kafkaesque dream, guilt, paranoia, Where is LAPD?
> To: "P-list" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 7:18 PM
> Laura:
>           Anyone up for a group read of Vineland next?
> 
> I'd be up for it, someone else recommends
> "V.", I  suggested 
> CoL 49—all have tight connections to AtD.
> 
> Vineland is about surveillance reversed, turning the
> cameras on the finks.
> 
> Considering how much space the creation of modern-day spy
> networks  
> takes up in AtD [GR, for that matter], Vineland offers up
> much relevant
> material as regards spies, spying and the creation of a
> permanent police 
> state in the good old U.S.A. Vineland is also connected to
> AtD via  the 
> presence of Jesse Traverse and Frenesi"s taste for
> C.O.P.s.
> 
> If it turns out to be "V.", though, I'll have
> a chance at connecting with a 
> book that has left me cold ever since I first had a crack
> at it twenty years 
> ago. On the one hand, the characters in "V." are
> the thinest in any of 
> TRP's novels—the cardboard cutouts in Against the Day
> usually have
> something funny ha-ha to say, there's a greater
> amusement potential.
> On the other, the time frame of "V."often matches
> Against the Day, 
> obviously OBA needed to tie up a lot of loose ends.
> 
> I'll end by noting here, and probably later on, that 
> la Jarretière's
> little entrance on p. 1066 is partially in the way of a
> belated apology for
> la Jarretière's scene in "V.", an ugly
> compendium of slurs and clichés
> on the arts scene. La Jarretière returns to assure us it
> was only an 
> outrageous stunt, no cause for concern. Must have been what
> our boy 
> was talkin' about when he said:
> 
>           "It is only fair to warn even the most
> kindly disposed of readers 
>           that there are some mighty tiresome passages
> here, juvinile and
>           deliquent too.  At the same time, my best hope is
> that, pretentious, 
>           goofy and ill-considered as they get now and
> then, these stories 
>           will still be of use with all their flaws intact,
> as illustrative of 
>           typical problems in entry-level fiction, and
> cautionary about some 
>           practices which younger writers might prefer to
> avoid.
>           Slow Learner page 4