AtD (37) p. 1055, Kafkaesque dream, guilt, paranoia, Where is LAPD?

Amy E. Vorro witavorr at hotmail.com
Mon Jul 28 18:46:37 CDT 2008


I'm new to this this listserv, but would wholly welcome a group read of Vineland. I'm reading it right now, but some external commentary would be freakin' awesome.
I vote yay? (Or is it yeh?)

Amy

> From: robinlandseadel at comcast.net
> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
> Subject: Re: AtD (37) p. 1055, Kafkaesque dream, guilt, paranoia, Where is LAPD?
> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:18:24 +0000
> 
>           Laura:
>           Anyone up for a group read of Vineland next?
> 
> I'd be up for it, someone else recommends "V.", I  suggested 
> CoL 49—all have tight connections to AtD.
> 
> Vineland is about surveillance reversed, turning the cameras on the finks.
> 
> Considering how much space the creation of modern-day spy networks  
> takes up in AtD [GR, for that matter], Vineland offers up much relevant
> material as regards spies, spying and the creation of a permanent police 
> state in the good old U.S.A. Vineland is also connected to AtD via  the 
> presence of Jesse Traverse and Frenesi"s taste for C.O.P.s.
> 
> If it turns out to be "V.", though, I'll have a chance at connecting with a 
> book that has left me cold ever since I first had a crack at it twenty years 
> ago. On the one hand, the characters in "V." are the thinest in any of 
> TRP's novels—the cardboard cutouts in Against the Day usually have
> something funny ha-ha to say, there's a greater amusement potential.
> On the other, the time frame of "V."often matches Against the Day, 
> obviously OBA needed to tie up a lot of loose ends.
> 
> I'll end by noting here, and probably later on, that  la Jarretière's
> little entrance on p. 1066 is partially in the way of a belated apology for
> la Jarretière's scene in "V.", an ugly compendium of slurs and clichés
> on the arts scene. La Jarretière returns to assure us it was only an 
> outrageous stunt, no cause for concern. Must have been what our boy 
> was talkin' about when he said:
> 
>           "It is only fair to warn even the most kindly disposed of readers 
>           that there are some mighty tiresome passages here, juvinile and
>           deliquent too.  At the same time, my best hope is that, pretentious, 
>           goofy and ill-considered as they get now and then, these stories 
>           will still be of use with all their flaws intact, as illustrative of 
>           typical problems in entry-level fiction, and cautionary about some 
>           practices which younger writers might prefer to avoid.
>           Slow Learner page 4
> 

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