What to read next?

[Natália Maranca]

I'd be happy to contribute more to the next reading, which I couldn't do
during this one of AtD as I was a bit unsynchronized. I'm also in favor of
V. or Vineland, preferably Vineland.

On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>wrote:

> doh!
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 6:50 PM
> Subject: Re: What to read next?
> To: markekohut at yahoo.com
>
>
> I had thought it might be nice to go back the beginning, to get a group
> read of V., but as I only just re-read it a few months ago I'd be happy
> digging into Vineland as it is next on my list after finishing my re-read of
> GR.  Trying to plan a thesis, here.  I found some cool stuff in V., might be
> fun to test it on the group, see if I saw what I saw.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> > I vote for the consensus..........
>> >
>> > In fact, in a kind of homage to timelessness, I vote for
>> > maybe reading more than one at a time???
>> >
>> > many on the the p-list is already doing that, it seems.
>> >
>> > a--and we always have more than one thread going
>> > anyway.........
>> >
>> > We can make some wonderfully contrapuntal, full orchestral
>> > sounds..........
>> > Talk about Stravinsky!?
>> >
>> >
>> > --- On Mon, 7/28/08, robinlandseadel at comcast.net
>> > <robinlandseadel at comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > > From: robinlandseadel at comcast.net
>> > <robinlandseadel at comcast.net>
>> > > Subject: Re: AtD (37) p. 1055, Kafkaesque dream,
>> > guilt, paranoia, Where is LAPD?
>> > > To: "P-list" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> > > Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 7:18 PM
>> > > Laura:
>> > >           Anyone up for a group read of Vineland next?
>> > >
>> > > I'd be up for it, someone else recommends
>> > > "V.", I  suggested
>> > > CoL 49—all have tight connections to AtD.
>> > >
>> > > Vineland is about surveillance reversed, turning the
>> > > cameras on the finks.
>> > >
>> > > Considering how much space the creation of modern-day
>> > spy
>> > > networks
>> > > takes up in AtD [GR, for that matter], Vineland offers
>> > up
>> > > much relevant
>> > > material as regards spies, spying and the creation of
>> > a
>> > > permanent police
>> > > state in the good old U.S.A. Vineland is also
>> > connected to
>> > > AtD via  the
>> > > presence of Jesse Traverse and Frenesi"s taste
>> > for
>> > > C.O.P.s.
>> > >
>> > > If it turns out to be "V.", though, I'll
>> > have
>> > > a chance at connecting with a
>> > > book that has left me cold ever since I first had a
>> > crack
>> > > at it twenty years
>> > > ago. On the one hand, the characters in "V."
>> > are
>> > > the thinest in any of
>> > > TRP's novels—the cardboard cutouts in Against
>> > the Day
>> > > usually have
>> > > something funny ha-ha to say, there's a greater
>> > > amusement potential.
>> > > On the other, the time frame of "V."often
>> > matches
>> > > Against the Day,
>> > > obviously OBA needed to tie up a lot of loose ends.
>> > >
>> > > I'll end by noting here, and probably later on,
>> > that
>> > > la Jarretière's
>> > > little entrance on p. 1066 is partially in the way of
>> > a
>> > > belated apology for
>> > > la Jarretière's scene in "V.", an ugly
>> > > compendium of slurs and clichés
>> > > on the arts scene. La Jarretière returns to assure us
>> > it
>> > > was only an
>> > > outrageous stunt, no cause for concern. Must have been
>> > what
>> > > our boy
>> > > was talkin' about when he said:
>> > >
>> > >           "It is only fair to warn even the most
>> > > kindly disposed of readers
>> > >           that there are some mighty tiresome passages
>> > > here, juvinile and
>> > >           deliquent too.  At the same time, my best
>> > hope is
>> > > that, pretentious,
>> > >           goofy and ill-considered as they get now and
>> > > then, these stories
>> > >           will still be of use with all their flaws
>> > intact,
>> > > as illustrative of
>> > >           typical problems in entry-level fiction, and
>> > > cautionary about some
>> > >           practices which younger writers might prefer
>> > to
>> > > avoid.
>> > >           Slow Learner page 4
>>
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