AtDTDA 32: Fantasia on a Fantasia of Thomas Tallis Pt. 1

[robinlandseadel at comcast.net]

Great dialog, Jill. Natch, I came out of the virulently Anti-Nuclear, 
tree-huggin', candle burnin' end of the spectrum, my mom and 
sis were actin' like it's the civil rights movement and all. No 
wonder Starhawk and them became friends.

My research sprouted up at GTE, where, as a night operator, I 
could read and make money at the same time. So I read Gravitys 
Rainbow again, slower this time, Ulysses---Joyce---for the first, 
Moby Dick, and a lot of Larry Niven. Once I got to research nuclear
power, I did and found out that the only way you can make money 
at nuclear power plants is by selling Plutonium. Game over.

These anti-nuclear actions were so P.C., the cops didn't do 
anything overt to undermine our efforts. Covert, that's 
another story, but nothing overt. I remember the metallic 
taste/smell of the bright yellow nuclear waste containers the 
bus idled at for the better part of an hour.

Met more Witches than you can wave a broomstick at in Livermore.
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From: "grladams at teleport.com" <grladams at teleport.com>
> I stand corrected. The camera is a powerful thing. It brings images of the
> flamboyant to the masses, and it's propaganda then, to say that all the
> hippies were lazy, self absorbed junkies. That stuff sells, just like
> whenever there's a gay rights parade they love to zoom in on the chicks
> with beards and mullets, and the guys with ass cheeks coming out of their
> chaps. In my parents' late 30's, dad was a working physicist for the
> postwar Oak Ridge atomic industries. I only knew pro nuke concepts as a
> kid. Now check the Gaia Lovelace fellow by the way on that... As in ENERGY
> not BOMBS. Mom and Dad's friends had hippy parties, where they'd dress up
> in robes with flowers wigs and protest signs, tape x's to their foreheads
> and toss back beers, their own ironic outlet as they probably had become
> inundated with images of Vietnam and the general building sickness of that
> time. We are from different trees but our roots comingle. I am going to
> extend this to the concept of authenticity. I have taken friends out to the
> country to visit, city kids, who actually have concern over whether the
> food they're gonna eat is organic. 'It was just picked' I feel like saying.
> It was probably volunteered from a compost pile! It's a qualilty of
> authenticity that Tallis wrote about -- and there are people on this list
> who "get it" -- about that know I'm not picking on them. Thanks for the
> lively thread here by the way! 
> 
> Original Message:
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> From: Monte Davis monte.davis at verizon.net
> Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 09:10:42 -0400
> To: kelber at mindspring.com, pynchon-l at waste.org
> Subject: RE: AtDTDA 32: Fantasia on a Fantasia of Thomas Tallis Pt. 1
> 
> 
> Laura sez:
> 
> >  We never spat at returning vets...
> 
> As far as research can determine, neither did anyone else:
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/Spitting-Image-Memory-Legacy-Vietnam/dp/0814751474/ref
> =pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1210424409&sr=8-1
> 
> Except: "the only documented instances show members of the VFW and American
> Legion spitting on their less successful Vietnam peers" [in VVAW]
> 
> The bulk of the "vets were scorned and abused" meme comes from several
> decades of "stab in the back" propaganda aimed at rewriting history to show
> that we had victory in our grasp before the America-hating hippies and news
> media snatched it away.
> 
> (By the same token, the "every WWII vet basked in parades and settled
> happily into the American Century" was a back-projection; there were quite a
> lot of mostly noir-ish books and movies in the late 1940s about those who
> couldn't readjust.) 
> 
> 
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