Mormons and Aztecs (Was ATDTDA (33) - p. 927-30 - railroads)

[Bekah]

The 1911 encyclopedia:
http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/Main_Page

there are several versions floating around:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encyclopædia_Britannica_Eleventh_Edition

Bekah



On May 23, 2008, at 8:15 AM, Mark Kohut wrote:

> WOW...................
>
> That TRP finds, utilizes EVERYTHING, doesn't he?
>
> David Payne <dpayne1912 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Narrative time, we're at 1911, and according to the Wiki:
>
> "In 1911, Hopi adherents [i.e., Mormon converts] and  
> traditionalists fought a brief civil war, permanently splitting the  
> group between those remaining at the Mesas and those now settled at  
> Tuba City, AZ." (http://against-the-day.pynchonwiki.com/wiki/ 
> index.php?title=ATD_919-945 -- see p. 928)
>
> While trying to verify this, I stumbled across this tangentially- 
> related tid-bit:
>
> "Hopi Prophecy: The end of all Hopi ceremonialism will come when a  
> 'Kachina' removes his mask during a dance in the plaza before  
> uninitiated children [the general public]. For a while there will  
> be no more ceremonies, no more faith. Then Oraibi will be  
> rejuvenated with its faith and ceremonies, marking the start of a  
> new cycle of Hopi life.
>
> "World War III will be started by those peoples who first revealed  
> the light (the divine wisdom or intelligence) in the other old  
> countries (India, China, Islamic Nations, Africa.)
>
> "The United States will be destroyed, land and people, by atomic  
> bombs and radioactivity."
>
> (See: http://www.welcomehome.org/rainbow/prophecy/hopi1.html)
>
> - dave
>
> ____
> On Fri, 23 May 2008 (06:05:38 -0700), Bekah  
> (Bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net) wrote:
>
>
> > The Mormons were probably refugees up until the post Civil War and
> > mining boom. The railroad reached intercontinental status in 1869
> > near Provo. And in 1875 or so they declared polygamy outdated (or
> > something like that) so they could join the Union as a state. At
> > some point - (???) the Mormons were no longer refugees and became
> > the invading force. Some moved as refugees to Mexico (as has been
> > noted earlier) but most returned later.
> >
> > Theologically the Mormons are sympathetic to the American Indians -
> > regard them as Lost Tribes or something. Realistically they were
> > just about as imperialistic as anyone - first they want a little
> > colony, then they want the mineral rich kingdom.
> >
> > Refugees or Trespassers - yes, it's all very murky indeed.
>
>
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