my reading this weekend

[grladams at teleport.com]

Woah, I had not thought that Godspeed You! Black Emperor may be a double
play on Oil.. woah. I loved that LP ..tiny fists.. whatever it was called.
Couldn't stop listening to the first side for days. Now Daniel, GYBE is
from the current times. Upton Sinclair was writing it the 20's. Laughing
out loud. I want to see the movie but want to read the book first... It's
getting good now that Bunny is learning about the true nature of our war in
Siberia. 

Later
Jill



Original Message:
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From: Daniel Julius daniel.julius at gmail.com
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 11:31:27 -0500
To: grladams at teleport.com, pynchon-l at waste.org
Subject: Re: my reading this weekend


Maybe he was listening to a lot of Godspeed You! Black Emperor when he wrote
the book

Have you seen the film yet, Jill?

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 5:39 PM, grladams at teleport.com <
grladams at teleport.com> wrote:

> I think: The completely insane excitement that ensues as drilling strikes
> black gold, and oil forces it's way up from millions of years ago to the
> moment, filling the air and falling all over them, well, it makes people
> shout "Oil!". The book delivers very fine descriptions of this on many
> occasions. Also, noteworthy, is how in dialogue, the word _slacker_ is
used
> to describe certain workers in the chapters before the war, during the
> labor union part..
>
> Jill
>
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Daniel Julius daniel.julius at gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 16:15:01 -0500
> To: grladams at teleport.com, pynchon-l at waste.org
> Subject: Re: my reading this weekend
>
>
> Why does he put an exclamation point in the title, do you think?
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 1:46 AM, grladams at teleport.com <
> grladams at teleport.com> wrote:
>
> > I have read most of Oil! by Upton Sinclair, since I want to see the
movie
> > but want to read the book first. It's amazing to get halfway finished
> with
> > it in two sittings, Pynchon's ATD primed my reading mind so that this
> book
> > is a page turner. Will return to ATD feedback later. But I'm struck by
> > visions of the characters in this book and their preocupations meshing
> and
> > being partly a thread inside ATD. Most obvious is the theme of pulling
up
> > from the earth this "stuff" so quickly, which took so long to get there,
> > and suddenly with this rearrangement, for so much to change for so many
> > people. And the way that the war was a handy trade market for Oil (and
> > maybe how all wars are). Scarce are railways but still there. Flying
> > overhead just out of view are the Chums I'm sure. All the little
details,
> > the riproaring speech snippets from Roosevelt marking human nature's
> desire
> > to believe in a comforting propaganda, double edged sword of capital,
> > advantages it gives some, the humanity that gets taken away from others,
> > and how all socialists get washed out with tossed bathwater of any
> > anarchist destruction. I'll one up myself with expanding the motif:
> > dualities or maybe n plus one dimensionalities emerge as sides of a
coin,
> > the shiny corporate side buys the grease for the rails, the idealist
soft
> > side that bears itself openly to predators with sharpened grabbing
> talons.
> > Other sides, anyone? Also noteworthy and familiar to ATD readers were
the
> > references to increasing debauchery of sex and free love. I was educated
> by
> > references to the Trans Siberian Railway being a locale for allied help
> > that was provided to both rebelling-against-the german-BohemiansCzecho
> > Slovakians and Russian-non Bolsheviks
> >
> > sigh. back to my book
> >
> > Jill
> >
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