Beettle, the last subject line was exceeding regulations
K3 V iN Cummiskey
kevincummiskey at yahoo.com
Thu Sep 4 01:19:05 CDT 2008
Beettle, I have 9 tons of shit in my inbox to get through and you send me more research? No, really appreciate. I read through once without linking but will tomarrow after school. Did I hit a sore nerve? You got something against Ruseavelt?
--- On Thu, 9/4/08, Michael Bailey <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Michael Bailey <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: War Notes, and life's natural aburdities // Kevin, you want conspiracies, we got 'em...
> To: "P-list" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 12:02 AM
> (top posting, long day and I didn't feel like snipping)
>
> Roosevelt had goons from the Chicago Democrat machine come
> up from
> the basement at the 1940 Democratic Convention, grab signs
> away from the
> other candidates' boosters, and start a
> "Roosevelt" cheer as if it was a
> grass roots acclamation from the hearts of the attendees.
>
> Well maybe his people did that, not himself. Still,
> Bush-league
> tactics to be sure.
> My dad remembers hearing the Roosevelt cheer on the radio.
>
> Burton Wheeler (Senator from Montana during those populist
> times)
> was one of the other candidates whose signs were
> grabbed...even from
> the hands of his kids who were representing him (as the
> kids say) at the Con.
>
> Wheeler's autobio, still a good read, relates how he
> (Wheeler) had come
> upon a plan in 1940 for military conquest in Europe and
> Asia and was about
> to leak it to the press...but then Pearl Harbor happened.
>
> Admiral Forrestal appears to have been aware of some
> jiggery-pokery
> with the official Pearl Harbor story, and we all know what
> happened to him
> http://www.rense.com/general69/advance.htm
>
> (For that matter, Hale Boggs dissented from the Warren
> Commission's
> findings, and we all know what happened to him)
>
> The Dude (Charles Hollander) has made a case for Burton
> Wheeler being a
> simulacrum of some order or other of an objective
> correlative for Zoyd Wheeler
> in Pynchon's (wonderful) book, _Vineland_
> http://www.ottosell.de/pynchon/wanda.htm (Wheeler
> connection
> embedded in other major arcana)
> btw, Otto's Pynchon page
> http://www.ottosell.de/pynchon/ rocketh.
>
> Also, Roosevelt was tolerated by the oil-i-garchy because
> his measures
> staved off the much more radical populism of Huey Long.
>
> Mises et al make a case for the Federal Reserve having
> caused
> the Great Depression, and New Deal measures having
> prolonged it.
>
> Pynchon is on top of all this material. This is most
> evident in GR,
> but it imbues his other work as well. The Hollander
> articles are available
> on Michael Ryckx's site as well:
> http://www.ottosell.de/pynchon/
>
> So if one were interested in the theme of conspiracy and
> paranoia
> in Pynchon, one could do worse than to look at vheissu.info
> and ottosell.de,
> maybe starting with the Charles Hollander articles and
> emanating from there...
>
> I personally relate more strongly to the aesthetic and
> literary values
> in Pynchon than to the conspiracy-master, the anarchist
> philosopher,
> the occultist.
> But have been fascinated enough by those other facets to
> spend more than
> a few golden hours looking at source material on them...
> mind-blowing stuff!
>
> On 9/3/08, K3 V iN Cummiskey
> <kevincummiskey at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > The Yellow-Peril and Co. hailing from Nippon were
> never in the business of making land-grap in a easterly
> fashion, towards the islands of Hawaii. One day, Roosavelt
> called Hirohito and said - "we're gonna be cutting
> off our supplies of the black-goo and other necessary
> war-materials to you, and go fuck-yourselves." Well,
> Japan needed american-shit to pursue her wars and land-graps
> in her own back-yard, which she was pursing because she had
> squat in the way of natural resources at home. Rusesavelt,
> called on Japan because he suspected they would totally
> over-react and knew they had the capacity to do so.
> Yamamoto and his ilk did Perl Harbor in order, they thought,
> to keep the Yankees out of Indonesia and other real-estate
> so they could continue raping unabated and and aquiring the
> neccesities necessary to keep the lights burning and
> perpellers-a-rotating. As the day in infamy recalls, they
> did over react. americans on the hole didnt want to get into
> the
> > war-games, at that time, so Ruseavelt needed some
> spectacular reason to super charge the american ass.
> That's why he baited Japan, because he wanted in the big
> games, in a big way, to spur war-profits and make a name for
> himself. And the american pubic bought the now-immediate, at
> the time, and dastardly reason to get into the big games
> too, hook line and sinker. That's really how we got into
> second series of great-wars mid-century of the last spent
> century.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> "He ain't crazy, he's a-makin'
> pottery" - Finley Pater Dunne
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