ATD vs. V.? Overcoding or metaphor?
Michael Bailey
michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com
Fri Sep 26 13:35:25 CDT 2008
oh, maybe I read that in an April issue of Esquire years and years ago
and didn't realize it was a joke.
Never mind.
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 4:26 AM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Michael,
>
> I have talked to many publishing people about Pynchon and his editors, etc.
> I am as sure as I can be that Jackie Onasis was never his editor. For one, he was never published by the comapny she worked for.
>
> Cork Smith and the late Faith Sale (Kirkpatrick's wife were his early editors).
>
> Mark
>
>
> --- On Fri, 9/26/08, Michael Bailey <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Michael Bailey <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: ATD vs. V.? Overcoding or metaphor?
>> To: "P-list" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 2:54 AM
>> David Morris wrote:
>> > I think the hollow earth segment in AtD was just a
>> cheap throwaway.
>> > It came and went without any real resonance with the
>> rest of the book.
>> > AtD needed a much more active editor. A lot should
>> have been cut
>> > before publishing.
>> >
>>
>> no doubt this has been mentioned before on the list, but
>> Jackie
>> Onassis was his editor
>> at one point. Fun was poked...
>>
>> who knows what goes on behind the scenes.
>> Most people think that Maxwell Perkins improved Thomas
>> Wolfe's books
>> immeasurably, but I've always been sort of curious
>> about the material
>> that was cut.
>> (I think it's available somewhere, even been published,
>> but I haven't yet gotten that curious, I guess.)
>>
>> for my part, I wouldn't cut a word of AtD.
>>
>> If the Chicago scenes established the Chums and interfaced
>> them with
>> the historical facts of the period in question, then the
>> Hollow Earth
>> sequences set the Chums loose amid its myths and
>> misinformation.
>>
>> In between, didn't we have the Pacific sequence, with
>> the Tesla
>> transmission, the fireworks and the falling-out over the
>> figurehead?
>>
>> Afterwards, don't we have their curious failure on the
>> Vormance mission?
>>
>> There's a lot of heavy lifting that could be done with
>> that stuff, if
>> I felt up to it tonight.
>> Progressions, counterpoints, (de)cadences, singling up and
>> casting off
>> of lines of flight...
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