Big Up the P-List, yo!

Charles Albert cfalbert at gmail.com
Wed Aug 12 20:56:00 CDT 2009


On the subject of Dylan, has anyone else seen WALK HARD?

The Dylan spoofs are a riot....


love,
cfa

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Carvill John <johncarvill at hotmail.com>wrote:

>
> I've been on and off this list for years now. It's a bit like smoking,
> which you're expected to give up eventually. Ach, lets face it, it's more
> like smoking dope, which we're expectd never even to take up, but  you get
> the point. A pleasurable habit which sometimes has its down sides, and which
> in any case your wife would rather you knock on the head for good. But, as
> possible Pynchon mate Bob Dylan said, in the course of his last truly great
> album 'Love & Theft' (the only Dylan album title to have included inverted
> commas in the title, how Pynchonian), "Sometimes someone wants you to give
> something up and, tears or not, it's too much to ask".
>
> What I really like about Paul's post, below, is that he says he's
> concurring with me - and he *is*, I think - his comments could just as
> easily be marshalled to make a case against me. Not that I had an argument
> to argue against in the first place.
>
> But what I really mean is that I appreciate this forum for the opportunity
> it gives to a lot of multiply diverse people to discuss such a range of
> matters, either related to TRP or not. It doesn't get said often enough -
> and if it does it's by p-list stalwart and all-round Voltarian good egg Dave
> Monroe - but we would all, surely, be the poorer for the loss of this list.
> Which seems like small potatoes in the 'my latest pearl of wisdom' stakes;
> but which also means we would all be the poorer for the loss of each other,
> dunnit?
>
> So - big up y'self, all merry p-lister folk. A-and, ask y'sel'.............
>
>
>
> >
> > I would very much concur with the above.
> >
> > IV is a pastiche combining the hardboiled detective story with the doper
> > genre or flick. The author has to be selective, so that one form doesn't
> > detract from the other. The detecive has to maintain his mental acuity a
> > good deal of the time or what would be the point. On the other hand, what
> > would be the 70s without a lot of drug participation and talk.
> >
> > Or, another way of looking at it, the hardboiled detective is a decendent
> > of the pulps. Writers got paid by the word. so of course there is a lot
> of
> > filler. But more importantly action packed writing has to be
> paced--slowed
> > down in other words. The reason Marlow seems to be reaching for the rye
> so
> > often is the same reason he keeps reaching for a lucky (or whatever he
> > smokes)--that being to pace the action. Not to get him drunk, but to give
> > the reader a chance to absorb the story at a manageable pace.
> >
> > Come to think of it, Doc reaches for a Kool almost as often as he reaches
> > for a joint.
> >
> > P
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