Big Up the P-List, yo!

Ian Livingston igrlivingston at gmail.com
Wed Aug 12 21:27:32 CDT 2009


I wonder how many 'listers there are out here South Dakota?

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Charles Albert<cfalbert at gmail.com> wrote:
> On the subject of Dylan, has anyone else seen WALK HARD?
>
> The Dylan spoofs are a riot....
>
>
> love,
> cfa
>
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Carvill John <johncarvill at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> I've been on and off this list for years now. It's a bit like smoking,
>> which you're expected to give up eventually. Ach, lets face it, it's more
>> like smoking dope, which we're expectd never even to take up, but  you get
>> the point. A pleasurable habit which sometimes has its down sides, and which
>> in any case your wife would rather you knock on the head for good. But, as
>> possible Pynchon mate Bob Dylan said, in the course of his last truly great
>> album 'Love & Theft' (the only Dylan album title to have included inverted
>> commas in the title, how Pynchonian), "Sometimes someone wants you to give
>> something up and, tears or not, it's too much to ask".
>>
>> What I really like about Paul's post, below, is that he says he's
>> concurring with me - and he *is*, I think - his comments could just as
>> easily be marshalled to make a case against me. Not that I had an argument
>> to argue against in the first place.
>>
>> But what I really mean is that I appreciate this forum for the opportunity
>> it gives to a lot of multiply diverse people to discuss such a range of
>> matters, either related to TRP or not. It doesn't get said often enough -
>> and if it does it's by p-list stalwart and all-round Voltarian good egg Dave
>> Monroe - but we would all, surely, be the poorer for the loss of this list.
>> Which seems like small potatoes in the 'my latest pearl of wisdom' stakes;
>> but which also means we would all be the poorer for the loss of each other,
>> dunnit?
>>
>> So - big up y'self, all merry p-lister folk. A-and, ask
>> y'sel'.............
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > I would very much concur with the above.
>> >
>> > IV is a pastiche combining the hardboiled detective story with the doper
>> > genre or flick. The author has to be selective, so that one form doesn't
>> > detract from the other. The detecive has to maintain his mental acuity a
>> > good deal of the time or what would be the point. On the other hand,
>> > what
>> > would be the 70s without a lot of drug participation and talk.
>> >
>> > Or, another way of looking at it, the hardboiled detective is a
>> > decendent
>> > of the pulps. Writers got paid by the word. so of course there is a lot
>> > of
>> > filler. But more importantly action packed writing has to be
>> > paced--slowed
>> > down in other words. The reason Marlow seems to be reaching for the rye
>> > so
>> > often is the same reason he keeps reaching for a lucky (or whatever he
>> > smokes)--that being to pace the action. Not to get him drunk, but to
>> > give
>> > the reader a chance to absorb the story at a manageable pace.
>> >
>> > Come to think of it, Doc reaches for a Kool almost as often as he
>> > reaches
>> > for a joint.
>> >
>> > P
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