Spoiler's Reading IV pp 1-50

Carvill John johncarvill at hotmail.com
Sat Aug 15 08:12:35 CDT 2009


Good post, Robin.  


>

> Some of us feel as if we have to do these things. While I don't think

> the group read of Against the Day was 'a total waste of time' there

> were times when a lot of crickets could be heard, a lot of folks

> bailing, a lot of wheels spinning. What can I say? This stuff

> obviously isn't for everyone. 'alice wellintown' obviously could have

> made useful contributions, but it's hard to tell from the passive

> aggressive quality of 'her' recent posts exactly what this poster is

> really up to.



Alice, like Terrance, has a habit of submitting long rambling semi-coherent posts, forever hinting that she/he has a much deeper understanding of whatever it is she/he is rambling about, yet never seeming able to get to the point. I long since stopped reading them.


The other kind of post she/he favours,  is the short sharp shock, a mode which has a didactic tone  in common with her/his rambling mode. Examples include 'Vineland is about work' or 'IV is crap'.


>
> I do not think Inherent Vice is crap. I do think that most of Inherent
> Vice is drawn from memory instead of research and that the author's
> memories are obviously [deliberately] warped. I also think that
> Inherent Vice owes a great deal to Raymond Chandler. Pynchon could not
> have found a more preterite form to express his thoughts than this
> psychedelic noir.
>


Well yeah, and there were a lotta Chandler echoes in ATD also. I expect the Pynchon/Chandler vein will offer rich pickings during the group read. If we can chase those crickets away...





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