Spoiler's Reading IV pp 1-50

[Mark Kohut]

John,

Often, it seems, since most plisters do have lives and given the nature of reading emails, when response to a post is poor, it means it is right on, smart, got "it" or at least one of the possibilities of "it".

I get the most responses when I'm told I ...might not be right...... 
When I say to myself "F*** it, I'll go way out here" speculatively, not afraid to be way off (in most people's mind). 

But, every response, or lack of one, refines. Like a chamois cloth rub
or a sandpaper sanding.

I, at least, promise to comment--if only to say Right On to many---on every one of yur posts if you will host a section...you'll hate me when it's over. 

If Inherent Vice is not as intensely encoded as GR or AtD, we can use all the echoes of P's earlier work we find in this one. I hear many in simple lines even...

--- On Sat, 8/15/09, Carvill John <johncarvill at hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Carvill John <johncarvill at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: Spoiler's Reading IV pp 1-50
> To: robinlandseadel at comcast.net, pynchon-l at waste.org
> Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 9:12 AM
> 
> Good post, Robin.  
> 
> 
> >
> 
> > Some of us feel as if we have to do these things.
> While I don't think
> 
> > the group read of Against the Day was 'a total waste
> of time' there
> 
> > were times when a lot of crickets could be heard, a
> lot of folks
> 
> > bailing, a lot of wheels spinning. What can I say?
> This stuff
> 
> > obviously isn't for everyone. 'alice wellintown'
> obviously could have
> 
> > made useful contributions, but it's hard to tell from
> the passive
> 
> > aggressive quality of 'her' recent posts exactly what
> this poster is
> 
> > really up to.
> 
> 
> 
> Alice, like Terrance, has a habit of submitting long
> rambling semi-coherent posts, forever hinting that she/he
> has a much deeper understanding of whatever it is she/he is
> rambling about, yet never seeming able to get to the point.
> I long since stopped reading them.
> 
> 
> The other kind of post she/he favours,  is the short
> sharp shock, a mode which has a didactic tone  in
> common with her/his rambling mode. Examples include
> 'Vineland is about work' or 'IV is crap'.
> 
> 
> >
> > I do not think Inherent Vice is crap. I do think that
> most of Inherent
> > Vice is drawn from memory instead of research and that
> the author's
> > memories are obviously [deliberately] warped. I also
> think that
> > Inherent Vice owes a great deal to Raymond Chandler.
> Pynchon could not
> > have found a more preterite form to express his
> thoughts than this
> > psychedelic noir.
> >
> 
> 
> Well yeah, and there were a lotta Chandler echoes in ATD
> also. I expect the Pynchon/Chandler vein will offer rich
> pickings during the group read. If we can chase those
> crickets away...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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