Zoyd [IV spoiler]

[David Morris]

I agree that Zoyd never "turns" or has his cherry popped.  He doesn't
work for the government:  He is on eternal parole from BV, until BV
suddenly (and for no apparent reason in the text) decides to change
the deal and swoop in for the kill.  Zoyd is a pawn desperately tryng
to avoid being crushed.  If he is stuck in childhood, it is not
entirely voluntary.

If Frenesi and BV are the adults in this dynamic, Pynchon clearly sees
adults as having crossed over to that dark side.

The characters in VL that have admirable volition are Takesi and DL.

David Morris

On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 8:48 PM, alice
wellintown<alicewellintown at gmail.com> wrote:
> Richard Fiero  wrote:
>   . . .
>> Not sure I have a dog in this fight but Zoyd does not roll over on Shorty but gives Hector nothing.  It's a word or mind game run by Hector.
>
> There is nothing on Shorty to give. Hector needs Zoyd  to roll so he can rubber stamp the deal with BV.