IVIV (1) Intro

[rich]

I really hope this is not how Pynchon sums up his career

maybe if he wrote IV in 1970 i'd be more impressed (well, i'd be only
6 so I'd be impressed with most things ;)

don't wanna say the novel is pointless, but its really a  vehicle for
alot of goofy fun. no harm in that. we just expect more from Pynchon

it'd be like if Joyce wrote after Finnegans Wake something like Four
Weddings and a Funeral

with that said, our discussions on IV are interesting
rich



On 8/25/09, grladams at teleport.com <grladams at teleport.com> wrote:
> I'm liking the book, don't get me wrong, but also circling all the dang
> hobby horses Pynchon's using...  if I hadn't read so much Pynchon, I might
> actually like this one better. I guess I'm just being picky but ...
> pneumatic tubes
> underground post offices
> land grabs
> anal anxiety throbs
> couple three's
> offshore banks
> pynchon words...
> not just switches but Bakelite switches
> lots of Capitalized Brand Name words
> photography equipment that lets you go into alternate views
> people who seemed to have died but who are resurrected
> someone with Wolf in the name...
> references to bombthrowing anarchists
>
>
> will we have underground or inner earth realities?
> will we have scripophily or an auction or sentient rocks?
>
>
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Joe Allonby joeallonby at gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:49:51 -0400
> To: against.the.dave at gmail.com, pynchon-l at waste.org
> Subject: Re: IVIV (1) Intro
>
>
> You're doing a bang up job so far, Dave. I could use a Jameson half
> rocks, A 20 oz Sierra Nevada, and a fat sportello with an ashtray.
>
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Dave Monroe<against.the.dave at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Okay, FINALLY ...
>>
>> As with AtD, I'm taking it as my personal mission not only simply to
>> Look Things Up (via Google or otherwise, Mr. Mackin), but, also, to
>> read the new novel with an eye and/or ear toward reflections,
>> refractions, resemblances familiar and/or otherwise, echoes, samples,
>> resonances and/or allusions (illusions? is the question one must
>> always ask, at LEAST with Pynchon, so feel free to ask it) with the
>> previous half-dozen novels et al., texts and then some (il n'y a pas
>> de hors-texte?)  Pynchonian and/or otherwise.  Feel free of course not
>> only to add, but also to subtract, extract, detract, whatever it
>> takes.  Then do of course do so.  Looks like things proceeded more
>> than well enough without me, let's just hope (as I do, at any rate),
>> the Monrovian curse with its tragicomedic chorus of crickets doesn't
>> ensue.  Chat amongst yrselves.  Mingle, mingle.  Let me know if
>> there's anything I can get you.  Welcome to newcomers, rewelcome to
>> oldcomers--Dave Monroe, rush chairman, damn glad to meet you.  Be
>> cool, but care.  Await resilient Sportello's Empire. Ask whatever
>> questions, and hope you get the right answers.  Or, at least,
>> interesting ones.  Every dog, have yr day.  Have two, they're too
>> short is it is.  And, of course, smoke 'em if you got 'em (I don't,
>> but ...), and love the one yr with.  Or even against.  Either/or.
>> Both/and.  U.s.w.  Et soforthiam ...
>>
>> Now everybody--
>>
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