aw. RE: The Nobel Prize for War 2009 goes to ...

Kai Frederik Lorentzen lorentzen at hotmail.de
Thu Dec 3 05:19:04 CST 2009


Obama obviously did inherit a very crappy situation. And, like David Morris
said, the Republican alternative is scary. I also can see that the Obama
administration's effort to create a public health system that deserves the
name is not nothing. And as a sociologist I know that individual politicians
do not run a national society. B-but is there really, like you say, such a
broad popular support for the War? I read and hear different voices. And then:
Do you --- does anybody here --- believe that the White House decision will,
well, wipe out terrorism or something? Of course it won't yet breed new and
more terrorism! The tenthousands and tenthousands of fathers, brothers and
cousins of the Afghan/Pakistan people who will get killed in 2010/11 are the
ideal recruitment pool for a second wave of dedicated Anti-US-Freedom-Fighters.
But to finish this mail with something more optimistic and constructive:

Do you see ways to shrink the US-population's support for the War?

Kai

PS: Yes, I know, capitalism with its war-profits plays a huge role in all this.


Robert:

>
> I've been trying to figure out how to say what I want to say about
> this since I saw Kai's post, and just now I saw a blog post that gets
> at part of it:
>
> http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/12/a-center-right-nation.php
>
> I would like to think that if I were in Obama's shoes I would do
> things differently, but I also hope that he is smarter, more
> knowledgeable, and better advised than I am. He certainly inherited a
> crappy situation. But the bigger point is the one Yglesias makes,
> which is that this is a country where there is broad popular support
> for aggressive foreign policy, and unless and until that changes there
> is not that much that individual politicians can do about it.
>
> Just my two cents.
>
> On 12/2/09, kelber at mindspring.com wrote:
>> We were actually relieved to find that my nephew's being deployed to the relative safety of Iraq - a country that actually had a centralized government at one time. Uh, wait a minute -- isn't "troop withdrawal from Iraq" one of Obama's great promised accomplishments, as exulted over in Slate and the DailyKos?
>>
>> Laura
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>>From: rich
>>>Sent: Dec 2, 2009 11:41 AM
>>>To: Kai Frederik Lorentzen
>>>Cc: pynchon-l at waste.org
>>>Subject: Re: The Nobel Prize for War 2009 goes to ...
>>>
>>>I got lost driving home last night in the really shitty part of
>>>Newark, NJ--and I wondered all the waste overseas while place like
>>>Newark rot in front of our eyes
>>>
>>>I think that whole support the troops nonsense is a unconcious defense
>>>mechanism against the reality of: sorry your son or daughter died for
>>>nothing
>>>
>>>shameful
>>>
>>>rich
>>>
>>>On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> .. Barack Obama!!
>>>>
>>>> I'm through with the guy.
>>>>
>>>> kfl
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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