IVing to the last drop: 'we've got this President now..."

[Mark Kohut]

Alcie writes:
> Thanks. Larry, here, is parroting
> what Bigfoot said earlier when he
> was trying to recruit Larry. pp. 32-33.

I have reread pages 32-33 and what doc sez is NOT parroting. If there is an attitudinal echoing, I think it makes the case that Larry comes to see
this "truth".

 This undermines the argument that Larry is a mouthpiece for
> Pynchon, a
> reliable narrator (you can call him effaced but that term
> us fairly
> useless if you apply it as you have to every work P has
> written).

An effaced narrator, if that is the mode of narration is there or it is not, no matter how many of P's novels I have said it of. All of them could be. James gave us the technique fully articulated and almost all of his narrators are, aren't they? 

Anyway, I do not believe I have said it of M & D and given the someone behind the Chums explicitly telling their tales in AtD, the 'effaced narrator' is even trickier if it is there....I wasn't watching when I read it or listened to it but as I write this I can certainly "hear" that narrator in the latter section when the Chums go entrepreneurial. And, on reflection, with some of Lew Basnight's epiphanies.




> 
> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > Larry. Bigfoot is not in this chapter.
> >
> > p. 294 line 26ff. "Yeah, and what about when patriots
> and tyrants turn out to be the same people?" said Doc, "like
> we've got this President now...."
> >
> > --- On Sun, 12/6/09, alice wellintown <alicewellintown at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: alice wellintown <alicewellintown at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: IVing to the last drop: 'we've got
> this President now..."
> >> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
> >> Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 9:37 AM
> >> Mark Kohut  wrote:
> >> > Nixon. P's hatred of him--see GR--is put
> right here
> >> again, semi-autobigraphically?   Which, again,
> means to me
> >> that most of
> >> > Doc's obs and remarks are 'reliable' in the
> narrator
> >> sense
> >> > AND some kind of echo of an attitude of his
> >> creator's?
> >> >
> >> > Or, do you believe, as I just read today by
> >> draughtsman-artist Ad Reinhart:
> >> > Art is art and everything else is everything
> else?
> >>
> >> Is this quote from Larry or Bigfoot?
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>