offlist RE: IVIV Larry smoking dope

[Robin Landseadel]

On Dec 11, 2009, at 1:59 PM, Michael Bailey wrote:

> Can't we all just get along?

It has a bit to do with what we want to hear and what we don't want to  
hear. I love Eric Dolphy, Anthony Braxton makes me want to run  
screaming from the room. The connections I've been making to Chandler  
have driven the Kindly Dr. Carvill up the wall, which is a pity as  
that's nothing like my intention. I think he thinks we've all had  
enough, I know I haven't. On the other hand, others find what I'm  
cooking up plenty palatable so it's not as though I have any strong  
inducement to stop.

> so JC goes:
>> Example: Robin says well, wasn't John Lennon tripping when he  
>> 'constructed' Strawberry >Fields Forever? Eh? Whaddya say to that,  
>> Mister I Don't Think Pynchon Ever Touched A >Joint In His Life? And  
>> when I say, well, first off that's a fairly specious comparison, GR  
>> >versus Strawberry Fields Forever, and anyway Lennon was not  
>> tripping when he 'constructed' >that song, what response do I get  
>> from Robin? Zip.
>
> I think it was Allonby who brought that up, not Robin.

Whatever. I remember saying "Me too, I ate one sour too" or something  
along those lines in that particular delta-t of the thread. All sorts  
of things that might be said on this here forum run into a brick wall  
of "Ritual Reluctance." Some of that ritual reluctance may even be of  
a legal nature. On top of that it also depends in part about which  
biographies one chooses to believe, what sort of myths one happens to  
be strung out on. For the record, "Strawberry Fields" sounds like a  
recalled hypnogogic dream to me and some of the homemade work tapes of  
the song  sound like they're being invoked in a trance. In other  
words, I'm saying that the song is coming from a visionary place. I  
guess we can project our own theories as to how John got there.  
There's plenty of documentation of John being a frequent flyer for a  
considerable length of time—1966/1967—there's later documentation of  
George ultimately being repelled by LSD, there's furthur documentation  
of John referring to his LSD experiences as in the past tense. But if  
it's John Lennon, fall/winter of 1966 we're speaking of here—to  
paraphrase George under similar ontological circumstances—I say it's  
the LSD and I'm sticking to it.

I suspect the nutmeg was still swirling around Charlie Parker's head  
when he came up with the atomic sounds of "Ko-Ko." I've read that  
Mozart was a stenographer. I think some of this sort of stuff is  
received from somewhere else.

> -- 
> - "The doctor said give him jug band music; it seems to make him feel
> just fine!"

		"Going to Silly Putty,
		going to Silly Putty,
		sorry, but I can't take you.

		Going to Silly Putty,
		sorry—I can't take you.

		I can't abide no woman
		who goes 'round sniffin' glue."