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[rich]

I've noted this before but one of the major problems about our
addictions, our despair regarding modern society, our co-optation by
systems and our inexplicable desire for them is that we've come so far
that, yes, we mistake the pornography for the real (in fact some only
know said pornography) but the unmistakable quandry we all experience
in numerous ways is our total dependence on said systems, keeping in
mind that old image of the Alien wrapped around our faces, that's the
system and we are in terror of dismantling that from our faces, for it
will rip our faces away with the doing away of those systems, so we
cling to criminality, pornography, and innumerable addictions of some
sort. I guess we all fear that state where we are all on our own

rich

On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
> This is one of those deals where I was outside working and had the same
> thoughts exactly, partly in connection to the Copenhagen dealings. And it is
> in some ways worse than an addiction to capitalism or things or the fake
> over the real but an addiction to the criminality we despise or tell
> ourselves we despise. People  hate Manson/OJ/Bin Laden/the Mafia but  obsess
> over every detail of their doings , fantasize about having similar powers,
> enact bloody revenge on surrogates.
>
>
> On Dec 11, 2009, at 1:12 PM, Doug Millison wrote:
>
>
>> Maybe it's "addiction" itself that's the problem? Instead of normal,
>> healthy relationships with other people and things, we sometimes develop
>> addictions instead.  Recall how Pynchon's work goes after "pornography",
>> described as the phony and inauthentic representations of life that we
>> humans sometimes prefer over the real thing. The perfect sunset on the
>> postcard instead of life on the real Gordita Beach, for example.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Mark the K;
>>>
>>
>>
>>> …without further thought I guess I see the GF as our addiction to THINGS
>>> that destroy us, whatever that means......
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