IVIV family

[alice wellintown]

Again, Doc is no surfer, but a kind of tourist who would, if he had
the money, move to Hawaii NOT to ride the Giants, but to pay someone
else to ride them for him. (IV page 2)
Or maybe just "dig" them as he says.
Pay someone to cut your grass, clean your house, raise your kids, make
love to your husband.
For ecerything else, there is Master Card.

Doc digs other people's problems and even works on them without any
real chance of getting paid. Or are they his problems? Bigfoot wants
to turn and hire Larry to solve a "mystery." And on and on.

Ah Bartleby!   Ah Humanity!


On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 2:10 AM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
> I've noted this before but one of the major problems about our
> addictions, our despair regarding modern society, our co-optation by
> systems and our inexplicable desire for them is that we've come so far
> that, yes, we mistake the pornography for the real (in fact some only
> know said pornography) but the unmistakable quandry we all experience
> in numerous ways is our total dependence on said systems, keeping in
> mind that old image of the Alien wrapped around our faces, that's the
> system and we are in terror of dismantling that from our faces, for it
> will rip our faces away with the doing away of those systems, so we
> cling to criminality, pornography, and innumerable addictions of some
> sort. I guess we all fear that state where we are all on our own
>
> rich
>
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
>> This is one of those deals where I was outside working and had the same
>> thoughts exactly, partly in connection to the Copenhagen dealings. And it is
>> in some ways worse than an addiction to capitalism or things or the fake
>> over the real but an addiction to the criminality we despise or tell
>> ourselves we despise. People  hate Manson/OJ/Bin Laden/the Mafia but  obsess
>> over every detail of their doings , fantasize about having similar powers,
>> enact bloody revenge on surrogates.
>>
>>
>> On Dec 11, 2009, at 1:12 PM, Doug Millison wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Maybe it's "addiction" itself that's the problem? Instead of normal,
>>> healthy relationships with other people and things, we sometimes develop
>>> addictions instead.  Recall how Pynchon's work goes after "pornography",
>>> described as the phony and inauthentic representations of life that we
>>> humans sometimes prefer over the real thing. The perfect sunset on the
>>> postcard instead of life on the real Gordita Beach, for example.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark the K;
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> …without further thought I guess I see the GF as our addiction to THINGS
>>>> that destroy us, whatever that means......
>>
>>
>