who are we?

Mark Kohut markekohut at yahoo.com
Tue Dec 29 20:02:23 CST 2009


Walter Kirn, I think it is, he of the IV Times rave, has a neat essay on how Holden struck him at different ages and circumstances....

no time to find but google is forever...

--- On Tue, 12/29/09, Michael Bailey <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Michael Bailey <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: who are we?
> To: "P-list" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 4:09 PM
> Joe Allonby  wrote:
> > Sorry. I found him insufferable and couldn't buy the
> crap I was taught
> > about how he was supposed to speak to my youthful
> alienation.
> >
> >
> 
> 
> wow, that's not the book struck me, I didn't feel moved to
> identify with him
> so much as sympathize with him
> 
> his brother died
> 
> so he opened his eyes a little and saw how everybody's
> dying to be loved
> and freaked out a little bit
> 
> plus you've got class and race and gender to grope with,
> more cigarettes than Doc smokes pot, New York Cityscapes,
> and childhood and adulthood and adolescence depicted,
> and I suppose people aren't completely wrong to suspect
> there's
> a "genuineness/phoniness" exploration going on too
> 
> while there's a lot of freedom for him to rant and rave,
> still his conclusions aren't jarringly drastic, to
> paraphrase Bob Dylan
> 
> 
> it's tight, too, I mean it's got all that theme and
> symbolism
> and development and crap going on...
> 
> I dunno, still right up there with Vineland for me
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> - "all is not fair in Love and Noir" - alice wellintown.
> 


      



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