who are we?

[Ian Livingston]

Maybe I'll have to read it again. It has been, after all, about 35
years. I know GR had grown up a lot in 20 years between my first and
second readings. It could well be that Catcher is 35 years deeper now,
too. I waffle, perhaps, but it is the waffling of one who's had the
experience of proving himself wrong. At 18, though, I thought it
tripe. I should remember that when I bring fiction to students,
perhaps.


On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Walter Kirn, I think it is, he of the IV Times rave, has a neat essay on how Holden struck him at different ages and circumstances....
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> no time to find but google is forever...
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> --- On Tue, 12/29/09, Michael Bailey <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> From: Michael Bailey <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: who are we?
>> To: "P-list" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 4:09 PM
>> Joe Allonby  wrote:
>> > Sorry. I found him insufferable and couldn't buy the
>> crap I was taught
>> > about how he was supposed to speak to my youthful
>> alienation.
>> >
>> >
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>> wow, that's not the book struck me, I didn't feel moved to
>> identify with him
>> so much as sympathize with him
>>
>> his brother died
>>
>> so he opened his eyes a little and saw how everybody's
>> dying to be loved
>> and freaked out a little bit
>>
>> plus you've got class and race and gender to grope with,
>> more cigarettes than Doc smokes pot, New York Cityscapes,
>> and childhood and adulthood and adolescence depicted,
>> and I suppose people aren't completely wrong to suspect
>> there's
>> a "genuineness/phoniness" exploration going on too
>>
>> while there's a lot of freedom for him to rant and rave,
>> still his conclusions aren't jarringly drastic, to
>> paraphrase Bob Dylan
>>
>>
>> it's tight, too, I mean it's got all that theme and
>> symbolism
>> and development and crap going on...
>>
>> I dunno, still right up there with Vineland for me
>>
>>
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>> --
>> - "all is not fair in Love and Noir" - alice wellintown.
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