aw. RE: aw. RE: Why did Elser plant the bomb?

[rich]

just read Ian Kershaw's essay Hitler and the Uniqueness of Nazism.

essentially the deal Kershaw's on about is the historical debate over
Hitler's role--was he the central cog, the sine qua non of national
socialism or was he a weak dictator who sowed the field but was
offstage to events and people and institutions working it out for
themselves in a belief they were working towards Hitler in some
way--i.e. a revolution from below in emerging radicalism and eventual
mass murder.

think Kershaw would agree that no Hitler: No holocaust. he thinks many
historians underestimate his influence.

all that said, you kill Hitler in 1939 that'd would've been a pretty
major turn of events

rich

On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Michael Bailey
<michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> wrote:
> Kai Frederik Lorentzen  wrote:
>> Ok, we're talking about Hitler, and the year is 1939.
>
>>... Come on, don't leave it like that ...
>
>
> let's say it had succeeded.  You'd have a dead Hitler and the dude who
> wrote the Horst Wessel song would write a Hitler song.  Whoever in the
> inner circle got ascendancy would have had a great excuse to tighten
> security.
> Hitler's strategy lost WWII.  In an alternate  timeline somebody more
> canny would've maybe not opened 2 fronts, eg.
>
> Real life example: Reichstag fire, the dude according to my info was a
> sincere anarchist.  What did his deed accomplish?
>
> Now Hitler in 1923...a lot more tempting...but find a way to embarrass
> him publicly instead of kill him, and I'll sign on...
>
>>
>