James goes to the dogs

[Mark Kohut]

Yea, maybe a World Anarchism allusion is just a world anarchism allusion in Pynchon. Princess Casamassima is being paid homage to; a novel about the real world not a "lurid thriller"

Re: Pynchon's Americanism as a writer. Very, Very. Just not James' realism went my riff; just little beyond Princess Casamassima to show any James influence, unlike what we can see of many other American writers, I argued.

James Wood, great reader and Pynchon naysayer, has spoken of him (and others) under the phrase "hysterical realists". Bad lenses in my opinion:
not realism and hysterical is a loaded way to characterize outrage/satire.

--- On Wed, 7/22/09, Michael Bailey <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Michael Bailey <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: James goes to the dogs
> To: "P-list" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 4:46 PM
> Doug Millison wrote:
> 
> > If as if the Petillon passage Dave Monroe so helpfully
> provides might
> > suggest, Pynchon takes to heart James' method, perhaps
> via Pugnax he's
> > looking lovingly into his Master's gaze.  Or maybe
> not.  As TRP say, which
> > do you want it to be?
> >
> >
> 
> thanks for the calm words, Doug.
> 
> what I want today - it's Wednesday, right? - is for Pugnax
> to convey
> the "fighting spirit"
> attached to groups such as the Chums, and how when not
> actively
> engaged in combat, he is able
> to "mellow out" with a good book, just as the Plato
> character does in
> Beetle Bailey.
> 
> also just had a stray thought about how the Chums might be
> considered
> a D&Gian "nomadic war machine"
> and OBA ringing his humanistic changes on that theme
> 
> -- 
> "My God, I am fully in favor of a little leeway or the
> damnable jig is
> up! " - Seymour Glass
> 
>