The real estate developer motif in TRP and a Vineland stream

[Campbel Morgan]

How could he support the Mafia? Come on. They kill people, and screw
up neighborhoods by threatening regular business folk, and by working
with the Police to screw the preterite as they try to establish
businesses, put up parks, live in peace.

Wayvone is a cartoon mafia fool with a Fake Book written by po-mo's
couple of intellectual misfits.  It's all wit and other forms of
satire; burlesque, irony, parody, sarcasm...

As to the black market and the underground ... well ... not exactly
...he doesn't, he can't ...support the eastern underground mafia
economies that sell girls and bad heroine.

Now, as the Chinese take over Africa and African preterite resist the
local corruption alliance with the Chinese, not with dynamite and guns
and weatherman foolishness (this goes way back to Grover and the
Scooby-Doo kids blowing up the bathrooms with sulfer bombs), but with
the kind of response the P admired in the Watts "junk" artist. Work
together with the debris and waste; don't project a world, live one.

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:21 AM, David Morris<fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> The point is that the **significance** of Yakuza profiting in RE in the 80's
> is **greatly diminished** by the fact that:
>
> 1.  Anybody who invested in RE in the 80's made money
>
> 2.  Japanese in general (not just mafia) invested heavily in US RE in the
> 80's, provoking much fear-mongering in the US about THEM buying up OUR
> country.
> And I don't think Pynchon is all that against mafia in general.  He sort of
> likes outlaws, and his portrayal of Ralph Wayvone in Vineland isn't as a bad
> guy.  Pynchon digs the concept & existence of an underground economy,
> especially one that sells contraband.
>
> David Morris
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Preterites did NOT make a killing in California real estate in the 1980s.
>>
>> Zoyd did not.
>>
>> That mysterious Japanese mafia connection, which we have recently
>> discussed in the Vineland group reading, did.
>>
>> That's MAFIA.....Bad Shit, to quote a Pynchon work.
>