VLVL(12) pgs 261 -

[Bekah]

"famous lady counterculturalists"

Angela Davis -  Berkeley prof
Bernadette Dohrn  -  U of Ch. prof
Cathy Wilkerson    NY high school math teacher
Kathy Boudin   working in NY?  writing?  (out on parole some time ago)
Helen Garvy  - made a film about the SDS -
Sara Jane Soliah Olsen  (in hiding in Minneapolis, then jail,  now  
out,  I think)
Lynette Fromme  (still in prison for trying to assassinate Ford)
(there are more I'm sure but they're less and less famous)

The women's movement has been perpetually turned aside because other  
issues have intervened.   In 1848 (Seneca Falls) the "more serious  
issue" was slavery and many women felt they had to put that issue  
first,  so it wasn't until 1920 before women got suffrage.   WWII pre- 
empted the women's movement in the 1940s and the general attitude was  
to get back to the good life (hula hoops and television).   The  
Vietnam war preempted the women's movement in the '60s (couldn't get  
the Equal Rights Amendment passed.)   So the Women's Movement has had  
to make slow and steady progress in spite of all those other issues.   
I think society is more liberated these days than the law.    There  
still is no ERA,  pay packages still discriminate in the private  
sector and male bosses will always prefer a conference with a nice  
young pair of legs.  (We need more women bosses.)

Bekah



On Mar 7, 2009, at 12:59 PM, Michael Bailey wrote:
>
> tryin' to think (but nothin' happens) of famous lady counterculturists
> who were co-opted...
> Jane Fonda married Ted Turner?  (saw her in Hill Auditorium in Ann
> Arbor in 1974)
> Angela Davis became a prof?
> Patty Hearst?  Stockholm Syndrome in a general sense...
>
> heck, tryin' ta think of famous lady counterculturists at all ... I
> know there were lots...
> Mother Jones?  Gloria Steinem?  (remember Time magazine reporting her
> falling in love and saying she liked being dominated, can't remember
> the year)
> Emma Goldman?  Cokie Roberts?  Grace Slick?  Janis Joplin?
>
> (but I might know more about women's viewpoints soon - serendipity,
> got totally incontrovertibly hooked on Linda Perry singing What's Up
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXcQGsoDkDk a few days ago, and found a
> feminist collection edited by a person with the same name,
> http://tinyurl.com/cegkgk (link is to Amazon because I apparently
> bought Powells last copy) which looks to be really good)
>
> is there an intention of comparing Zoyd who only has a kind of
> personal toughness with Frenesi - like the pedigreed leftist with the
> Berkeley education and a cadre doesn't hold out against the
> establishment?  but the forces brought to bear on her were a lot
> stronger...
>
> I skimmed some of the Molly Hite gender stuff, and feel she brings a
> valuable perspective. My warp of that vision, is to see Frenesi as an
> Everywoman who does start out with a unique and penetrating viewpoint
> but is forced by Men in general to capitulate to their unfair thought
> processes, Zoyd being in some ways capable of being just as much of a
> dick (the scream-fests alluded to, eg) as Vond though lacking the
> power to enforce it (although I still think the gender reversal of
> Zoyd with his tears and housekeeping duties is also a motif), Weed
> being unsuitable for a long term commitment because of being so
> promiscuous as well as, eventually, dead...
>
> another subtheme being the validity of long term commitment in  
> general...
> (where is it in the book about how what America calls love, the rest
> of the world calls male adolescence?)  movements and unions and all
> those good things being built on long term commitments...
>
> but also oppressive gov'ts are built on long term commitments too -
> steady paychecks, reliance on psychological quirks (propensities to S
> and to M) - and the counterculture's use of short-term thrills to do
> its share of co-optation (mentioned in next chap.) perhaps was like
> using a nuclear option, since commitment is not in fact built on those
> (or is it - maybe a little...?)
>
> anyway, famous turnings of coat?  I will be pondering on this...
> ...
> also, you [Bekah] wondered why there was an asterisk at the top of one
> page denoting a section break - maybe a very special section break?
> I can't shed any light on that, but it does remind of an Isaac Asimov
> joke, about Nathan Hale's last words being, "I regret that I have only
> one * for my country"
>
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>
> lastly, found a typo somewhere in the section you just covered. BFD.
>
> -- 
>  - "Be groovy or B movie" - the old 24fps signoff
>