sorta Watchmen, sorta P

Michael Bailey michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com
Sun Mar 8 22:29:11 CDT 2009


Jill Adams wrote:

> what is that mechanism... that I have noticed, that I will <not> be persuaded by emotional >claims..i don't know whether I am more disgusted with myself for not really seeking the truth, >putting up a defense against knowing, or if I'm more disgusted with the reality of the bald >existence of the shock doctrine.

persuasion theory?  not being persuaded by emotional claims is part of
it, perhaps...the Chicken Little syndrome (as opposed to the Chichen
Itza syndrome where you sacrifice to the rain god)

persuasion protocol for, like, a good novel or movie - maybe, or for
feelings about somebody it might actually help to be all hot and
bothered

and seeing somebody affected by an event, it might underline their
credibility if they are  all sorts of upset about it

but at a third party remove, talking about stuff that happened to
other people and trying to form a viewpoint about it, I think it's
natural to suspect extreme emotion

other than align oneself with the forces of good, what can we do about
these things anyway?
It isn't something you can jump right out and change.

Learned something interesting, I was going to write something about
Ewan Cameron and MK Ultra, but the actual name of that guy was Donald
Ewen Cameron, while Ewan Cameron was the name of a doctor who worked
with Linus Pauling on Vitamin C research...

Perhaps to draw a notion from this disambiguation, the specifics of
the cases are likely to disappear if excess emotion enters the
discourse...

for instance, my personal experience with neuroleptics was that they
were helpful and I took them voluntarily for fifteen years.

I could, and have many times over the years, raised all kinds of
squabbles about how other therapies might be more helpful, how actual
life trauma, including self inflicted ones like alcohol and drugs, but
also various forms of abuse and political indignation [imho] have a
lot more to do with mental illness than any theorized defects of the
brain

and how meds and shock allow doctors to line their pockets, make
patients docile, and avoid actually relating to the patients.  How the
cost of Zyprexa is so high that its frequent use is bankrupting state
Medicaid agencies (and how Bush the elder is on the board of at least
one of those med companies)

But compared to shock, meds are better.  Compared to lobotomy, shock
is better.  Compared to languishing in Bedlam, taking neuroleptics and
holding a job ain't half bad.

Just a nod to the original topic, Frenesi mentioned how that drug
experience mingled with the sexual aspects of discipline was not
entirely unpleasant..//. My personal experience bears that out, which
is why her career change is credible to some extent.



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