Chomsky/Hitchens/Milosevic/Bush
    Carvill John 
    johncarvill at hotmail.com
       
    Sun Mar 22 09:28:58 CDT 2009
    
    
  
 
Exasperation is threatening to overwhelm me!
 
> the only thing that makes me keep responding is the way you're saying "Serbs" without
> qualifiers as if every one of them is a war criminal.
 
Of course i am not saying that. But I would say that the majority of Serbs are deluded, to some extent, over the nature of their role in what happened. Serbs have a long tradition of clinging to the idea of victimhood, which is what Milosevic's demagoguery so deftly manipulated. 
 
Because of the way the conflict ended, with Dayton, etc., there was  no full, final surrender, as there was for teh Nazis, so there has been no 'closure' for the Serbs. They were allowed to set up their own partitioned mini-state, the 'Serb Republic', inside Bosnia, and including some of the aread where the worst of their prison camps were, where they committed some of their worst atrocities. Imagine if the Nzais, at the end of WWII, had been allowed to keep, say, Poland, and run it as a Fascist state. A reductive comparison of course but you get the point.
 
Serbs today continue to see themselves as victims, and many honestly believe that the world is against them and that all the stories of genocide are false. Not to be rude, but people such as yourself, who allow themselves to fall for that idea, even partially, evenb briefly, are a part of teh problem.
 
 
> If Mr Simms can prove that, I sure don't want him starting on my history.
 
Baffling statement. I cannot understand how a half-way intelligent person could say this. What do you mean? Who is making such a claim?
 
> Some of them must be like, novelists or violinists or costermongers who thought
> Milosevic was a dickhead, ya know?
 
Yes, of course. Of course. But the bulk of the Belgrade intelligensia supported Milosevic.
 
 
> I'm living on land stolen from the Native Americans
 
Really? Who says it was 'stolen'? How do you know the Natvie AMericans didn't just get what they deserved? HOw do you know they were really 'native'? Were they all angels? What if I could point you to a website which claimed those pesky natives were all villains? See how silly that sounds?
 
 
>how about a source with neither bosnia nor serbia in the name?
 
Not a fair distinction. Look at the headlins on the home page of that deconstruct site:
 
"Agony of the Serbs in Srebrenica Death Camps "
 
"Hague Tribunal Uses Suffering of Kosovo Serbs to Prepare False Witnesses "
 
"Five Years Since Kosovo Kristallnacht "
 
"Organ Harvesting Atrocities: Identifying Kosovo Albanian Butchers "
 
"Patriotism, the Unbearable Pain of Serbophobes "
 
"Who is Prosecuting NATO War Criminals?"
 
 
Can you not recognise hysterical propaganda whn you see it? Are you blind?
 
 
 
 
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