I Love NY
kelber at mindspring.com
kelber at mindspring.com
Fri Mar 27 12:45:14 CDT 2009
"The Thing from the North that retributively attacks the City" sequence in ATD seems to be TRP's take on being in NYC on 9-11 -- at least that's how I read it.
Aside from that, being an affluent Upper-West-Sider (more elect than preterite, a little closer to Them than he'd like) probably doesn't play very well into the themes that TRP like to explore.
Laura
-----Original Message-----
>From: Henry Musikar <scuffling at gmail.com>
>Sent: Mar 27, 2009 1:10 PM
>To: Pynchon Liste <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>Subject: RE: I Love NY
>
>Respectfully beg to differ slightly, Paul. Military, drugs, founding
>fathers WASP family history, California, and Boston are all part of OBA's
>person history AND his horsed'oeuvres. No, not autobiographical or
>confessional, but Pynchon qua Pynchon is in all of his writings, at least
>his life until his move to NYC is. Something Happened.
>
>Henry Mu
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul Mackin
>Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 12:38 PM
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Henry Musikar"
>
>> Pynchon may be from Glen Cove, and has lived in NYC for a while now, but
>> he's still a visitor from warmer climes. Is this because of his
>> particularly WASP and peculiarly non-public experience? His NY theater
>> section in ATD was through the eyes of a girl from the mid-west. On the
>> other hand, Philip Roth who, though from across the river, apparently
>> loved
>> and courted New York, but left "the city" for greener fields, like me, but
>> still has always has been and will remain, like me, a New Yorker:
>>
>>
>http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/18/the-mayor-and-the-philip-roth-q
>> uote/
>> "The upheaval of New York had taken little more than a week. There is no
>> more worldly in-the-world place than New York, full of all those people on
>> their cellphones going to restaurants, having affairs, getting jobs,
>> reading
>> the news, being consumed with political emotion, and I'd thought to come
>> back in from where I'd been, to resume residence there reembodied, to take
>> on all the things I'd decided to relinquish - love, desire, quarrels,
>> professional conflict, the whole messy legacy of the past - and instead,
>> as
>> in a speeded-up old movie, I passed through for the briefest moment, only
>> to
>> pull out to come back here."
>> http://tinyurl.com/exit-ghost
>>
>> Is OBA's not having written a book set in the era in which it is written
>> because they take to long to write to ever be current, or perhaps due to
>> not
>> being fully engaged with the tumultuous surroundings of the city that he
>> has
>> chosen as his home?
>>
>
>Isn't it that he is not an autobiographical type writer as is Roth?
>
>Doesn't write about things he has experienced directly but rather relies on
>
>a lot of research.
>
>Some direct experience went into V.
>
>Probably less so in VL. He was already over 30 in 1968.
>
>By now of course he has lived in Manhattan long enough to longer be
>considered a tourist.
>
>Would stand in good stead for writing a pretty authentic novel about the
>life of an aging literary icon on the Upper East Side.l
>
>P
>
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