I Love NY

[Henry Musikar]

Joseph, welcome to the NY era in which many baby-boomer's NYC parents made
the city the cultural hub that is today, as opposed to earlier times when
the carriage-crowd would never have to sit next to and be integrated with
those Jews.  Yes, a little more subtle than slavery and genocide, but that's
what makes it interesting, doncha think?

Henry Mu

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pynchon-l at waste.org [mailto:owner-pynchon-l at waste.org] On Behalf
Of Joseph Tracy
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 2:19 PM
To: pynchon-l at waste.org
Subject: Re: I Love NY

I, for one, pretty consistently hate and avoid  poems about poetry,  
and books about writers.  I think Roth, Updike and Bellow are best  
when they avoid this.  Of all ,I like Roth best when young and  
funny.  Find the whole Jewish integration into America thing of  
Bellow Roth Mailer to be of only slight interest after which it is  
infinitely boring and very hard to accept as valid on the same level  
as racial issues or the persecution of Jews in Europe, or Irish by  
English, native Americans  etc. .  I actually think the whole anglo  
Jewish east coast/NYC boys club of serious authors is a pure product  
of magazine hype rather than  actual great or influential writing.   
So, whatever is wrong with me is probably permanent.
On Mar 27, 2009, at 12:37 PM, Paul Mackin wrote:

>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henry Musikar"  
> <scuffling at gmail.com>
> To: "Pynchon Liste" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 11:31 AM
> Subject: I Love NY
>
>
>> Pynchon may be from Glen Cove, and has lived in NYC for a while  
>> now, but
>> he's still a visitor from warmer climes.  Is this because of his
>> particularly WASP and peculiarly non-public experience?  His NY  
>> theater
>> section in ATD was through the eyes of a girl from the mid-west.   
>> On the
>> other hand, Philip Roth who, though from across the river,  
>> apparently loved
>> and courted New York, but left "the city" for greener fields, like  
>> me, but
>> still has always has been and will remain, like me, a New Yorker:
>>
>> http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/18/the-mayor-and-the- 
>> philip-roth-q
>> uote/
>> "The upheaval of New York had taken little more than a week. There  
>> is no
>> more worldly in-the-world place than New York, full of all those  
>> people on
>> their cellphones going to restaurants, having affairs, getting  
>> jobs, reading
>> the news, being consumed with political emotion, and I'd thought  
>> to come
>> back in from where I'd been, to resume residence there reembodied,  
>> to take
>> on all the things I'd decided to relinquish - love, desire, quarrels,
>> professional conflict, the whole messy legacy of the past - and  
>> instead, as
>> in a speeded-up old movie, I passed through for the briefest  
>> moment, only to
>> pull out to come back here."
>> http://tinyurl.com/exit-ghost
>>
>> Is OBA's not having written a book set in the era in which it is  
>> written
>> because they take to long to write to ever be current, or perhaps  
>> due to not
>> being fully engaged with the tumultuous surroundings of the city  
>> that he has
>> chosen as his home?
>>
>
> Isn't it that he is not an autobiographical type writer as is Roth?
>
> Doesn't write about things he has experienced directly but  rather  
> relies on a lot of research.
>
> Some direct experience went into V.
>
> Probably less so in VL. He was already over 30 in 1968.
>
> By now of course he has lived in Manhattan long enough to longer be  
> considered a tourist.
>
> Would stand in good stead for writing a pretty authentic novel  
> about the life of an aging literary icon on the Upper East Side.l
>
> P
>
>
>
>
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