C of Lot 49 or Whether/Whither feminism?

malignd at aol.com malignd at aol.com
Thu May 7 16:52:47 CDT 2009


Leslie Fiedler is the only positive thing that I can think of that Freudianism produced.


Second or third tier (but an old fave of mine): Larry McMurtry. 

I can tell ya a story sometime.

As you may know, Leslie Fiedler's Love & Death in the American Novel famously 
generalized that
almost NO American writers have created full---round, in Forster's sense which 
we have discussed here---
sympathetic female characters. None, just about ever.  

Those who have tried, have largely created unsympathetic women. 

The best American novelists, mostly males (says Leslie), are geniuses by being 
able to 
objectify their narcissism. 

Go Figger. 

Refute.




-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
To: rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
Cc: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Thu, 7 May 2009 4:55 pm
Subject: Re: C of Lot 49 or Whether/Whither feminism?








Second or third tier (but an old fave of mine): Larry McMurtry. 

I can tell ya a story sometime.

As you may know, Leslie Fiedler's Love & Death in the American Novel famously 
generalized that
almost NO American writers have created full---round, in Forster's sense which 
we have discussed here---
sympathetic female characters. None, just about ever.  

Those who have tried, have largely created unsympathetic women. 

The best American novelists, mostly males (says Leslie), are geniuses by being 
able to 
objectify their narcissism. 

Go Figger. 

Refute.


 


----- Original Message ----
From:20rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
To: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
Cc: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2009 4:39:25 PM
Subject: Re: C of Lot 49 or Whether/Whither feminism?

Pynchon had no feel for this, didn't know how to portray female
friendship and solidarity.
________
can anyone name a male author who has w/o the lesbian overtones? (plz
don't mention Tom Robbins)
or vice-versa (i'd guess women would write better gay men
characters--I know a few who love gay porn ;)
Pat Barker did a fair enough job in the WWI books which I would also
classify as feminist
rich



      



 



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